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Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg179529#msg179529
« on: October 19, 2010, 01:39:38 am »
How dare someone try to do healing better than us!  We shall crush :light for attempting to outshine us (pun intended).

Strengths:
-High-powered Attackers:  Golden Dragons, Pegasus, and dear god let's not forget Morning Star.

-Healing:  While we might do healing better over time, even we cannot deny :light's skill with Miracle.  Holy Light is nice too.  Guardian Angel somewhat impedes our attempts to use CC.

-Shields:  You think zanz gave Light enough ways to protect themselves?  Mirror Shield, Solar Shield, and Hope could make things difficult when attempting to formulate a plan for breaking through their defenses.

-Quanta Production:  Photon and Luciferin can be a potential threat.  Unupped RoL/Hope is not something to be taken lightly.

-Power ups:  Blessing is potentially the best power up buff in the game.  Especially lethal on flying horses.

Weaknesses:
-Quanta Denial:  This is huge, as :light has several expensive cards at its disposal.  Preventing them from playing a last minute Miracle could be a crippling blow if used correctly.

-Rushes:  The next problem with :light is that most of the time it takes too long to setup and/or heal itself.  Beating them senseless before they get a chance to gain the upper hand is a plausible tactic.  This is not to say, however, that :light cannot rush, as xdude has already proven with his varying Pegasus Rushes.


Light is a fairly balanced Element, though it does have some kinky weaknesses we can take advantage of.  A fast enough rush can do it in, though it's risky, but we still need several ideas for how to deal with them more specifically and efficiently.

Most likely synergies:
:light / :gravity:  Already discussed.  Oty's +Blessing, Armagio + Angels
:light / :death:  Poison stall, which would be interesting, but unlikely.
:light / :life:  This could be deadly.  Rustler + Emerald Dragons, Miracles, Heals, nasty stuff.
:light / :air:  Flying Stars, Blessed flying horses, Owl's Eyes added in is a bad opponent as well.
:light / :darkness:  Voodoo?  Blessed Vampires?  Not feeling this combo.
:light / :aether:  Unupped RoL/Hope, Dimension Shield + Miracle + Holy Light Stall and the like.

Discuss.
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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg179739#msg179739
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 11:36:04 am »
one more powerfull combo, and likely to be used from team :light:
stoneskin + miracle.

since they could put in a ea'd titanium shield, they might use it against us.

and there is  :light/ :fire:
raged angels. maybe variation because of firestorm.

i dont see the  :light/ :life combo, since it would need more  :life cards then :light.

agree, a quanta denial deck is maybe the way to go here (adrenalined devourers +drain life for ev. otys?)

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg182024#msg182024
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 07:19:03 pm »
i see our strengths in quanta denial.
->adrenalined-devourer deck.

but it would loose to a blessed oty deck. except we could get out some drain lifes fast.

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg182081#msg182081
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2010, 08:13:26 pm »
I agree, adrenaline + Devourer is the way to go.

We have to be careful here, light uses deck out a /lot/, so we'll need some form of damage (vampires?) in there.

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg182319#msg182319
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 12:00:27 am »
the devourer deck we have atm:
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light has this opponents:
 :life
 :gravity 2x
 :aether 2x general
 :death general
 :entropy general
 :darkness
 :water

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg182378#msg182378
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 01:35:50 am »
Do you all think Hrmm's idea is good for me to play against rastafla?

I tried it and it is a tad bit unstable and very slow. It could work right but it has no bite at all. I think it would primarily function as deckout. You just can't get enough darkness quanta quick enough to have 4 drain life do the job. It is a fragile deck too as CC completely wipes out any chance of a win.

Can someone help me tweak it? I was thinking of adding 2 emerald pillars and some scorpions or dragons. Adren scorps could give poison that would help me as I stall. Dragons could withstand any CC rastafla might bring.

I envision Rastafla using a light/fire deck personally, but they may get more creative than that. I think he will DEFINITELY come packing CC because we are life and we pack low hp spam creatures.

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg182725#msg182725
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 02:33:59 pm »
 :fire/ :light i would be indeed a powerfull combo.
im sure about firestorm -- its seem really expensive in a duo.
against single cc our only hope would be mass critter spam.

the deck i posted is actually a deckout- deck.
i loocking for ways atm to give it some punch.

unfortunally we have just 2 vampires in vault: add them
do you think you would have enough life quanta for some dragons?
otherwise +3/4 frogs.

-3 heals

or -6 heals and add vampire dagger or jade staff.

as soon i have the time, i will post my tweaking progress on this deck.


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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg183166#msg183166
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 12:00:42 am »
Been playing around and i don't have enough life quanta to add dragons or anything. Spine carapace is expensive and a must vs creatures. If i need to adren an enemy dragon that cuts into my  :life even more.

I don't want to add a vamp stiletto or a jade staff because I suspect light/fire.

I have tried adding scorpions and it works - but they are super vulnerable to CC.

I have been playing with 2 vampires instead of scorps and it also works - but again is very CC vulnerable.

Basically this deck can't withstand more than minor CC. So we would have to count on firestorm not being used. But It seems highly plausible it will be used considering we are life and we spam creatures.

I am wondering if the  :life/ :water deck we have might be a better choice?

this  :life/ :darkness deck is good but a risk considering how vulnerable to CC it is.

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg183445#msg183445
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 11:07:43 am »
im not sure about  :light / :fire against us.
they fight  :aether 2x and might need some deflags there.

another idea:

discord against light?

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg183474#msg183474
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 01:20:49 pm »
im not sure about  :light / :fire against us.
they fight  :aether 2x and might need some deflags there.

another idea:

discord against light?
Ooo!  Good catch.  They'll definitely take deflags against aether, but that doesn't mean they won't take CC against us.
I do believe KDZ is already taking discords against entropy, so I'll look at his deck and the vault to see what's left.

There are: 2 antimatter, 4 discords, 6 fallen elves, 12 novas, and 5 dissipation shields left.

Maybe take a fallen elf deck?  Mutate any strong hitters they get out, mutate your crap into attackers, use your discord to make sure they can never afford costly cards?

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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg183483#msg183483
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 01:39:05 pm »
something like this, maybe?
not tested yet:
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Re: Strategy List: Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14215.msg183659#msg183659
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 05:30:47 pm »
I am really liking this deck idea.

Thanks so much yall! I am going to test it out and if it works for me I will post it as my final deck.

 

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