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Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg179178#msg179178
« on: October 18, 2010, 06:43:45 pm »
Earth's stalling abilities are unheard of...let's put a stop to them.

Strengths:
-Rushers:  Graboid, Shrieker, Antlion, Hermatite Golem, Gnome Rider (meh).  This is a pretty good selection of creatures.  The Graboid/Shrieker combination is obviously the most dangerous here, however.

-Lethal Attackers:  Shrieker and Stone Dragon are mean opponents to face; one can't be targeted once it goes underground, the other is resilient to CC.

-Stall Tactics:  Titanium Shield, Earthquake, Stone Skin, Basilisk Blood.  These put a great burden on our rushing abilities as well as a burden on several other strategies we might try to throw out there.

-Anti-control:  Plate Armor and Enchant Artifact fall into this category, makes it hella hard to counter much really.

-Permanent Control:  The notorious Pulverizer makes its appearance, though it does require a duo to work.


Weaknesses:
-Quanta Control:  The one area Earth is unguarded against.  The cards which are most lethal to us in these circumstances are the ones which either take a large amount of :earth to play, or get better as you collect more :earth.  Discord could be very useful.

-Rushing:  Unless the opponent is using a Shrieker Rush, we have the clear advantage here.  If we can deal massive amounts of damage before our opponent gets a chance to set up any form of defense, we can win the duel.

-Buffs:  Buffing our creatures gives us a significant advantage against :earth.  Adrenaline cuts the time inflict by BB by half (usually) and Momentum goes right through Titanium Shield.  We must take advantage of this weakness.


As it stands right now I'm strongly leaning towards a :gravity / :life duo.  Adrenaline Frogs can produce excellent early damage while Chargers blow right through shields thrown out.  The supporting elements are what will give us hell though.

Most likely synergies:
:earth / :fire:  Stall + CC / Permanent Control or alternatively the obvious:  Lava rush variation.  You're going to hear me say this for about any :fire synergy:  this is dangerous.
:earth / :gravity:  hrmmm has already listed a deck using this type of synergy in the gravity strategy list which should be looked at carefully.  Aside from that, mini-graviton I suppose.
:earth / :aether:  This caught us last war (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7660.0.html).  More stall tactics, I once again support :gravity / :life as a counter here.
:earth / :time:  Typical Shrieker rush here, but I would be very surprised for Terroking to use something so generic against us.  Expect to see a brutal stall here:  Reverse Times, Procrastinations, BB, Sundials.

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg179198#msg179198
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 07:07:08 pm »
Last war they took otyugh+Heavy armors with gravity shield and titanium shield both.  It only took one momentum'd hitter to obliterate us, especially since their obliterator destroyed all permanents.

Only counter:  Fractal something, preferably cockatrice, or the chimera deck.  Seems like the obvious take versus earth/gravity.  Should we plan on chimera bombing?  (7 creatures + chimera in one turn).

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg179206#msg179206
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 07:14:22 pm »
chimera seems also a good catch on this.
if we can spam enough critters (oty). we might take some mercenarys for  chimera support?

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg179476#msg179476
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 12:52:46 am »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9550.0.html

I have used that deck a lot, it is pretty brutalizing.

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg181862#msg181862
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2010, 04:37:54 pm »
Gl1tch vs Dreggs

as far as i know dreggs isnt a experient pvp player.
terroking might give him a "easy to play" deck.
 :earth/ :gravity ?
 :earth/ :aether ?

froctal?
chimera?
monumentumed scorpions?

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg181877#msg181877
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 04:52:28 pm »
I'm partial to the last two; Titanium Shield is a big threat for our froggies (although Gl1tch does have the option of using Giant Frogs).  Momentum is a must.
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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg182183#msg182183
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 09:53:53 pm »
I feel like, not matter what earth takes, it'd be hard pressed to find a counter to chimera rushing.  If I upgrade three of them, then they'll be cheap too.

I know Terroking, and he's fully confident life can't counter the earth/gravity deck.  At the same time, he might not want to drop a predictable deck, I'm rather experienced in terms of meta-game.  The only conceivable decks I could seem him taking are:

Shrieker Rush.  What matches are Earth playing?  Can the afford it against us?
Quanta crush.  It'd whoop our deck.
Shield stall.  We'd win.
Otyugh.  We'd win.

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg182220#msg182220
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 10:23:50 pm »
hmm then we would need a pillar/pendulum split.
specially with chimeras you wont need mutch pendulums.

shriecker rush needs 6 shriekers + graboids/golems/antilons(na only 2dmg here)
doubt they pack everything in against us.
except they make a huge creature spam + chimera (oh boy, well hope not).


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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg182223#msg182223
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 10:26:23 pm »
If they did we'd win.

Our huge creatures > their huge creatures.  Faster too.

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg187774#msg187774
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 03:44:46 pm »
decks earth used in round 1

Dreggs vs. life:
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rkDemagog (win) vs. water:
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 591 591 591 591 591 591 593 593 593 593 593 593 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 7t8 7t8 7t9$$$man vs. entropy:
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 594 594 594 594 594 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5oi 5oiSkydaemon (win) vs. gravity:
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 592 592 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aacoinich (win) vs. water:
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 591 591 591 591 591 591 593 593 593 593 593 593 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5up 5upTerroking vs. fire:
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 5f6 5ia 5oi 5oi 5oi 6u5 6u5 6u5 6u5 778 778korugar vs. entropy:
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58o 58o 58q 58q 58q 58q 592 592 592 592 592 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622TimerClock14 (win) vs. fire:
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55t 55t 55t 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 595 595 595 595 595 595 5lg 5lg 5v0 5v0 5v0Legit (win) vs. death:
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58s 58s 592 592 594 594 594 594 595 595 595 595 595 595earth fight against this other elements in round 2:
 :life
 :time
 :gravity 2x
 :aether 2x
 :water
 :entropy
 :light


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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg200555#msg200555
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2010, 09:27:53 pm »
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I've been toying with this deck vs. Earth. Hopefully a fire shield and heals will ruin any strategy they have based on shriekers.

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Re: Strategy List: Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14199.msg200598#msg200598
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2010, 10:21:10 pm »
we got a bloody nose vs. a quanta denial deck in the last round (eq + devourers).
i see such a deck comming again.
a fire deck would be nice against shriekers, but would run in serious problems against a earthquake deck.

cheap defense then? fog or wings?

 

anything
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