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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg88989#msg88989
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2010, 12:39:17 am »
Some problems.

A) Otyugh
B) Fractals just got beaten.  We have no more.
C) Dim shields were ALSO beaten.  We have no more.
D) We have no more aether pillars
So... that deck can't possibly work.

But it's a great idea.  I must admit, every single one of my ideas lost (the only win being the flying staves, which wasn't my idea, and the only 2-1 being the deck that was modified after I picked it)

So.... I'm not gonna be picking many this round.

Against time, Deflags + Deck out?  I have no clue...
meh it was just luck, who could have predicted fractal shrikers, i expected titan sheilds which is what defbs were for :/ oh well it isnt really to much your fault, there was no way i could have won tho.

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89454#msg89454
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2010, 03:50:41 pm »
I've got it.

I know which decks we should take.

dragonhuman should take the entropy deck against earth to stop otyugh, and mutate around shields.
Anothebrother should take the adrenaline vampire deck against darkness, and hope troh plays nightfall.
Gl1tch should the fire mark deflags against time, in case they pull those phase shield shenanigans again.  Other than that, a normal life rush should do fine.
gnikdoolb should take adrenaline cockatrice against gravity.  Too big for otyugh, too small for the shield, and too fast for chargers.

The question is which decks Amesjay and Kurohami should take against light.  From the decks I've seen, light's played a momentum dragon rush, a stoneskin miracle deckout deck, and a speed rainbow.

In order to stop the momentum dragon rush, a simple rush deck should win.  Any kind of quanta denial would kick butt right about now.  Unfortunately, the only quanta denial we have are discords, and they're going into the fight against earth.  Flying staves might beat two of those three decks, but I've got a feeling they're going to take a stall deck, seeing our abysmal performance against shields.

For that reason, I'm thinking we take a huge risk (I mean, at this point?  What have we got to lose?).  40 card flying staves stall deck.  We didn't pack much creature control, but light didn't either.  Their most damaging deck couldn't get past it, and their stall deck is too thin.  So lets fight anti-deckout with anti-deckout.

The other anti-light deck, however, faces the same threat.  Whatever deck we take has to be able to beat momentum, speed rainbow, and deckout decks.  Looking at the updated vault I just posted, we don't have a whole lot of options.  But we DO have six cards from the Anothebrother v. Valuk deck.  If we were to grab two dive and four blessing, and use the FFQ deck, I think it might work.  Outheal the dragon spam using emphatic bonds, hit the miracle spam with dive and fireflies (we'd still probably lose on that one), and shockwave and thunderstorm the hell out of that stupid golem rush.

We get to keep one card from dragonhuman's first round deck.  My vote is miracle.

We get to salvage six cards from Valuk.  I say two wyrms and four blessing.

As for our 12 card penalty, I'm thinking we should go with the cards in aether and water we no longer have the pillars for.

3x squid
1x ice shield
2x lobotomizer
6x parallel universe

Any objections before I PM Kills with our salvage and discard?

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89537#msg89537
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 05:01:58 pm »

We get to salvage six cards from Valuk.  I say two wyrms and six blessing.

As for our 12 card penalty, I'm thinking we should go with the cards in aether and water we no longer have the pillars for.

3x squid
1x ice shield
2x lobotomizer
6x parallel universe

Any objections before I PM Kills with our salvage and discard?
I'm assuming you meant 4 blessings... anyways, looks good, but do we maybe want to take 1 fog shield instead of a blessing in case we can draw it early and get lucky with that FFQ deck? (but do we already have shields in that FFQ deck? dont want too many shields)...idk do what you want...


Also, vamp deck looks good assuming he plays nightfall, however he could go darkness/death and poison the shit out of my adren'd vamps in which case i'd be fucked...but...i dont see any better options as it seems that if he goes death combo i cant use adrenaline and the only other option is entropy which i think is better suited against earth...

...also, your list looks good, although i think i see 4 adrenaline decks... (vamps, staves, cockatrice, and Gl1tch life-rush)...i'm not sure if we have enough adrenaline for 2 decks and we definitely dont have enough for 4 decks... so...what do you want to do? we could limit the adrens to all those decks and probably lose or win close in all of them, or we could sacrifice one of the decks and hope for the best

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89561#msg89561
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2010, 05:21:32 pm »
In the vault we still have 18 adrenaline

Adrenal cockatrice needs six.
Staves need six.
Vamps need six.

Life rush just needs creatures to spam.

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89873#msg89873
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 12:52:18 am »
Okay well I'm versing Helios  :light

I'm not quite sure what I should use against him

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89875#msg89875
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 12:55:10 am »
The question is, which of those three decks will helios deck.

You guys have until I go to be tonight to make your decks, or I'm gonna do it for you.  Not to be bossy, but I am NOT taking another penalty.

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89891#msg89891
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 01:15:24 am »
OK let me make a deck.
I will edit in 5.
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OK it has sheilds and heals, i know, not much rush but it scores a 4.5 on the OI originally i had
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it scored 2.2?????

any suggestions?

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89934#msg89934
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2010, 01:45:47 am »
gnik...why emerald shields and not thorns? also maybe some emphatic bonds would be good...


here's what i plan to use:



Do you think i should bring a shield? (i had 1 thorn shield and i never used it and stole two shields...)...also we have 2 drain lives but i dont think i need them do i?...gl1tch its up to you but this is about what i think i want...i'm nervous as hell about getting poisoned tho

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89935#msg89935
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2010, 01:47:06 am »
Then do you have a better idea?

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89938#msg89938
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2010, 01:52:37 am »
gnik...why emerald shields and not thorns? also maybe some emphatic bonds would be good...


here's what i plan to use:

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Do you think i should bring a shield? (i had 1 thorn shield and i never used it and stole two shields...)...also we have 2 drain lives but i dont think i need them do i?...gl1tch its up to you but this is about what i think i want...i'm nervous as hell about getting poisoned tho
emeralds because....
1st protects from a bolt deck
2nd momentum dose not apply poison on attacks
3rd cheaper
4th protects from 1 damage
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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg89991#msg89991
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2010, 03:50:42 am »
40 minutes until I choose your deck for you.

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Re: Second Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7815.msg90014#msg90014
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2010, 04:31:43 am »
Please choose my deck for me, I have no idea what deck I would use.

 

anything
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