Round 9

[Spielkind]

Matches:

4	Gen. Mr Muffin	Theonlyrealbeef
10	Manuel	phoenix1211
7	Spielkind	Solaris
5	Vangelios	moehrpi

Discard:

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 621 621 621 621 62m 62m 62m 7al 7al 7al 7al 7al 7an 7an 7an 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pu

No Question about, we loose all cards in that deck cause of 15 discard + the 3 SoW and 2 quint from EC round 6. Plus 5 from EC plus 9 from Vault. Wow... heavy impact!

Salvage:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 53e 542 542 542 542 5m6 5m6 5m6 5m6 71a 71a 71u 71u 71u 71u 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pq

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4st 5rk 5rk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5v1 5v1 5v1 7q4 7q4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t8 7tb 7tb 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 8ps

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5f7 5f8 5f8 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5lg 5lg 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 7dg 7dg 7dg 7f2 7f2 7f2 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pq

EC:

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Things below this line ^ (and that line) were put in by Mr Muffin not that it matters.

Decks from the elements we're facing that I would expect for whatever reason.


 
RoL Hope

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Psiontal

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4su 4su 4su 4su 4su 61o 63a 63a 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 808 808 808 808 81q 81q 81q 80l 80l 80l 80l 80l 8pu

Devtal

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5uk 606 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5ut 5up 5up 5up 5up 4su 4su 4su 4su 63a 63a 7ta 7td 7td 808 81q 81q 81q 81q 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pt

Aether Light Stall

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5lg 5lg 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7k2 7k2 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 81q 81q 81q 81q 8pq

 
Air Dark Domin

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Air Grabbow

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Air Light Stall

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They may have UG deck as well. I suppose none of this matters if we're going to suicide against air.


 
SoP Wardens/Squids

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Dim Fractal Deck

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Water Dark Domin NT

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Water Dark Domin

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Water Light Stall

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I don't know about SoP devs

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or other decks. They haven't been used in a while. Of course with water's huge vault and good recent win rate they could have pretty much any of their decks I think.


 
Rainbowstall

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DBH

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 4vl 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 55v 6ve 6ve 6u5 6u5 6u5 747 747 74f 74f 74f 752 752 8pl

Other than this I don't know what they have left.

[Spielkind]

I guess we two options:

- Discard the whole Sopadeck for discard
- discard 4 sundials, 4 sod, 1 miracle, 2 wings and 2 vampire stilleto, plus 1 random (ragepotion, rof, fog...) and salvage what we discarded here back.

Problem is, we run short on our keycards like cocks, druidstaff... should transmute something but we need most of salvage to hold on our lightstall then. Will we play the sopadeck? Did we already? Guess the weakest elemenst to this are dead... but perhaps we will face aether, then we can use it there!
So just mind about that, will see what we will get next round!

[Manuel]

death is alive, darkness and fire are ded

in next round we will face    every round lol

entropy still have a stall deck and fucking water let them salvage sopa, but they made 1-3 this round so they will probably play only two matches or something
kaempfer wrote a wot on what deck they have left in voice of the fallen, they will probably play only 2 matches
aether has rol hope, one stall , salvaged some  cards, they lost grabbow

[Spielkind]

Guess we should use on all decks "Rock Dynamite".
So its "6 ups for us", "no ups for both" or just "2 ups" for others. Not sure we will mindgate more or needed that.

[Manuel]

can i suicide/reduce discard/gambler? even salvaging sosacs from the  stall i don't think i can have more than 30% vs air

[Spielkind]

30 is 30. You always can win a Match.

[Manuel]

the point is:

against ai sosac work so good
against a brain sosac can work in first match, is pretty hard after your opponent know it if he has wyrms or sofree to burst damage

before checking the vault i thinked to something totally dumb like this

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BUT we have only 14 frogs left and i don't wanna waste them against air

suicide or any other thing to reduce the discard is better; lose my match, try to do everything against  ,  and 

[Mr Muffin]

Guess we should use on all decks "Rock Dynamite".
So its "6 ups for us", "no ups for both" or just "2 ups" for others. Not sure we will mindgate more or needed that.

Rock dynamite is the obvious thing to do so people might expect us to use it. People may go a level deeper and expect people to not use it because it's obvious so they don't  counter it. All in all I say don't worry about how other teams think and just use the optimal Rock Dynamite combo.

That death life duo doesn't work against air's grabbow.

[Manuel]

it's a huge prototype and yes, it doesn't work against UG and it autolose against any kind of stall

[Spielkind]

muffin sent EC stuff! just for the others to remind, every deck has rock dynamite!