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Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224030#msg224030
« on: December 13, 2010, 10:27:57 pm »
Ninja'd willing3 so I could get right to work.  Earth has the following cards (56 total):
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5c2 5c2 5c2 77b 77b 77b 7aj 7aj 7aj 80d 80d 80d 80d 80e 61q 592 592 592
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5bu 5c0 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
And six unknowns I'm currently working on finding.

They will probably take either a life life or an aether stall, and with 57 cards, we /cannot/ attempt to make a thicker deck.  With stone skins, we can't rely on a one drop either.  With thorns, we can't rely on creatures.  Fortunately, the only creatures /they/ have are dragons.  If we still had wings, they'd be perfect.  But the question is, what do we have in the vault that can kill dragons, knowing they also have a full set of lightning.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224031#msg224031
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 10:29:16 pm »
Terro said something positive relating to the possibility of salvaging 6 Phase Shields.  Definitely something to be wary of.  I fear a deck of those with EAs and SS could be coming our way.

But then again, now that we know they're going to have to stall...that gives us a serious advantage.
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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224041#msg224041
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 10:34:23 pm »
Not necessarily, he could rush.  Fortunately, we know their only creatures (I think) are stone dragons.

So he'll either take life creatures and thorns or he'll take dragons and stall.  Both are possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if Terro took a poison deck with heals, stone skin, and scorps.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224047#msg224047
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 10:37:15 pm »
I guess you're right, but in Terro's position which of our two decks do you think they will be most afraid of (because I'm honestly not sure myself)?
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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224052#msg224052
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 10:40:45 pm »
Well, if he goes with dragons, then antimatter would be a great pick, but the risk is a cheap creature life rush, and unfortunately, AM doesn't help versus poison.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224527#msg224527
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 01:20:38 pm »
Alright, right now my plan is to make the antimatter discord deck and use dragons as my win condition.  Hopefully an early discord will prevent phase shield chaining, and antimatter will stop dragons.

If we go with this plan, we need to:

Test the antimatter+discord deck versus phase shield stall, life rush with thorns and scorps, and life stall with heals, stone skins, and dragons.
If I could get help farming discords that'd kick ass too.

Does anyone have /any/ ideas as to what to deck vs. entropy?   Honestly, a life rush with scorps, frogs, and heals seems like the best pick.  I know mono is risky, but poison gets past discord, as does cheap creatures, and KDZ can upgrade stuff...

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224615#msg224615
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 04:35:59 pm »
what about the firestall vs. earth?

pro:
-> nothing cares about thorn there
-> emerald blocks scorpions completly (so i doubt they take them).
-> massive cc could handle dragons (no quints)
-> bolts > dim shields
-> heals might help vs. early poison

contra:
-> stoneskin: if he got lucky, he got out of bolt reach
-> dim shields + stoneskin = blocks fahren +^

we could take the deflags in to lower the risks from the contra's.


entropy:
really tricky, indeed.
im working on a rush for kdz atm. ->i though something rainbow stile with snovas, discords/lightning.
im not sure it work -.-


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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224626#msg224626
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 04:53:08 pm »
We only have one emerald shield, that plan is out.

Besides, it takes quite a bit of fire quanta to kill an upgraded dragon, I wouldn't want to risk it.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg224700#msg224700
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2010, 07:43:31 pm »
Played Sir Valimont in the T50.  He had fallen elves and rage potions in the weirdest entropy/life/fire deck I've ever seen.  It had adrenaline scorpions too.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg225038#msg225038
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 02:35:11 am »
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If I could get help farming discords that'd kick ass too.
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how many do you need?

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg225043#msg225043
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 02:55:50 am »
Kickass, I'll farm ASAP.

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Re: Round 8 - Strategery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17577.msg225044#msg225044
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 02:58:39 am »
I'll put up the same farm since I seem to be too distracted for actually playing the game today ;)
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