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Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206532#msg206532
« on: November 22, 2010, 04:13:16 am »
Well it appears I've been cast aside this round, but regardless I will not falter in my endeavors to bring down our foes.

Matches this round:
 :life killsdazombies
 :fire brettbstock

 :time Belthazar666
 :life hrmmm

 :death Xuru
 :life Gl1tch

 :life Nadrin
 :underworld Spielkind

Woo only 4 matches!  Team UW finally makes their appearance here...I'm not too sure if I like the sound of that or not.  We have :death as an opponent again?  Seriously?  Oh well, better make the most of it.  :fire and :time have me the most concerned.  :fire with its massive card pool and good grasp over our weaknesses due to previous failures holds an unmistakable advantage here.  :time is just unpredictable...there's no telling what they might throw at us.  Also, hrmmm please keep in mind what I posted on the Round 4 - Strategy list before taking part in any PVP deck testing; we really need to take proper precautions here.  Good luck Team :life!
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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206568#msg206568
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 05:49:36 am »
I am betting that Fire will run a :fire / :light deck against us. If not, we can punish them by running Thorn Shields early-game to kill their creatures, then Emerald Shields late-game to avoid bolts, or else rush them to death. Of course, their Vault is deep so we could face something very different.

What best counters a :fire / :light combo? It's a shame we can't go for quanta denial without our devourers, but is there another way? We could try to out-rush them and risk them packing lots of CC, or we could try stalling them and risk being out-stalled.

Personally I would suggest throwing down a mono- :life rush, with Cockatrices, Frogs and Adrenalines. Very basic, and might just be fast enough to work. It'll win or fail on its own merits, and we'll be throwing the game to chance rather than skill.

Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206753#msg206753
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 01:42:03 pm »
I am betting that Fire will run a :fire / :light deck against us. If not, we can punish them by running Thorn Shields early-game to kill their creatures, then Emerald Shields late-game to avoid bolts, or else rush them to death. Of course, their Vault is deep so we could face something very different.

What best counters a :fire / :light combo? It's a shame we can't go for quanta denial without our devourers, but is there another way? We could try to out-rush them and risk them packing lots of CC, or we could try stalling them and risk being out-stalled.

Personally I would suggest throwing down a mono- :life rush, with Cockatrices, Frogs and Adrenalines. Very basic, and might just be fast enough to work. It'll win or fail on its own merits, and we'll be throwing the game to chance rather than skill.
Add another r and a t and you have my last name  :))

We will have no clue on what  :underworld would use cause they can use anything.... :(
Ill have to agree with you on Team  :fire.
Time I have no clue cause I dont really use time but they would probably take a  :time/ :light dou or a Mono  :time imo.... tho it depends.

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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206789#msg206789
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 03:00:24 pm »
I am betting that Fire will run a :fire / :light deck against us. If not, we can punish them by running Thorn Shields early-game to kill their creatures, then Emerald Shields late-game to avoid bolts, or else rush them to death. Of course, their Vault is deep so we could face something very different.

What best counters a :fire / :light combo? It's a shame we can't go for quanta denial without our devourers, but is there another way? We could try to out-rush them and risk them packing lots of CC, or we could try stalling them and risk being out-stalled.

Personally I would suggest throwing down a mono- :life rush, with Cockatrices, Frogs and Adrenalines. Very basic, and might just be fast enough to work. It'll win or fail on its own merits, and we'll be throwing the game to chance rather than skill.
There's just one problem with the :fire / :light combo:  without upped Sundials, the deck fails miserably.  If they do use it against us, it's going to be a completely different variant than before.  I still suspect that :underworld will use a Speedbow more than likely, but it's anybody's guess.
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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206889#msg206889
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 04:51:07 pm »
There's just one problem with the :fire / :light combo:  without upped Sundials, the deck fails miserably.  If they do use it against us, it's going to be a completely different variant than before. 
ermm...
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14616.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15600.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15854.0.html
nope, it wont need dials^^
the trick on a fire stall = just destroy anything that can be dangerous. put in some miracles... voila

they also have tons of discords and used them sucessfull vs. life.
we should be prepared for a fire shield in any case vs. fire.

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I still suspect that :underworld will use a Speedbow more than likely, but it's anybody's guess.
what we know: their deck cant be more then 30 cards.
due this im sure they use a eternity stall somewhere. but they might use that more likely vs.  :light then against us.
so yes, we could face some kind of speedbow. maybe with some cc on a stick, like armored oty or owls.

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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206891#msg206891
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 04:53:22 pm »
There's just one problem with the :fire / :light combo:  without upped Sundials, the deck fails miserably.  If they do use it against us, it's going to be a completely different variant than before. 
ermm...
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14616.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15600.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15854.0.html
nope, it wont need dials^^
the trick on a fire stall = just destroy anything that can be dangerous. put in some miracles... voila

they also have tons of discords and used them sucessfull vs. life.
we should be prepared for a fire shield in any case vs. fire.
You do realize each of those decks was used by :light and not :fire, right?  How many of the cards used in those 3 decks do you suspect :fire has up its sleeves?
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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206898#msg206898
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2010, 05:04:06 pm »
of corse i know that, willing3.
you dont need much  :light cards to feed that combo. since you pack alot of cc you have enough time to let your pendulums gain 15 for a miracle.

tell me then, dear  :life strategist, how many times did fire win vs.  :light ?
and how likely could they salvage some miracles?

if its not possible (or unlikely) that they can do such a dou, we should prepare us for the  :fire / :entropy.

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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206903#msg206903
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 05:12:09 pm »
of corse i know that, willing3.
you dont need much  :light cards to feed that combo. since you pack alot of cc you have enough time to let your pendulums gain 15 for a miracle.

tell me then, dear  :life strategist, how many times did fire win vs.  :light ?
and how likely could they salvage some miracles?

if its not possible (or unlikely) that they can do such a dou, we should prepare us for the  :fire / :entropy.
Looking over my last response I realize that I may have sounded much more antagonistic than I had intended D:  I was asking for clarification on exactly what they could throw at us, which you have provided.  Thanks...
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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg206961#msg206961
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 06:35:07 pm »
i took no offence here, willing3, np.

its just hard to predict what fire will take against us.
a fire/miracle stall we lost too many fights or the discord/phoenix deck that also did well -.-

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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16122.msg212205#msg212205
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 02:30:21 am »
I think I've finally figured out the strategic decisions life has been making this war that I didn't last war.

We're evolving.

I mean, look at us.  At the start, how many graboid rushes did we plan?  How many counter discord decks did we make?  Evolving means we'll survive into the later rounds, and as other elements suicide, we're 4-0.  We've passed water and gravity, and darkness and time aren't looking too hot.  Earth is also making a lovely plummet, and with UW's shitty round, that makes 5 elements below us.  We could be looking at a top-6 finish here.

You have no idea how proud that makes me of all of you.  <3

 

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