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Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg331647#msg331647
« on: May 11, 2011, 07:08:10 pm »
Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
4x air pillar
2x oe
2x nova
2x forest spirit
1x fog
1xgraboid
3x eq
2x tit shield
1x graboid

Discarding
3x charger
3x acceleration
1x momentum
2x titan
1x thorn shield
1x cock
14x life pend
========25 (keeping 5x cock)
1x shockwave
3x flying weapon
2x fog shield
2x mitosis
1x forest scorp
3x adren
2x bond
1x staff
8x emerald pillar
1x frog
2x life pend
====25 (keeping 2x shockwave, 2 x dragon, 3 x pillar, 2 x staff)

1x minor vamp
1x wings
2x deflag
1x adren
6x life pend
3x frog
6x nova
5x graboid
===25 (keeping 2x heal, 1 x staff, 2 x pend)






Penalties
-6 for subbing (no salvage)

Converting

all the below to life pendulums

3x otyugh
2x gravity shield
6x devourer
2x nightfall
2x dusk
1x discord
2x fractal
6x reverse time


Salvage from:

PlayerOa (Sub by ralouf1) 2 - 0 :darkness mrpaper
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5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5up 5up 5v8 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606We can rebuild our air and darkness duos with cards like flying weapons, OE, wings, or steals
No salvaging, it's subbed. My bad.

promwarm 2 - 0 :air jippy99
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55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5puWe can get OEs and fly weapons for the air duo. Wavedash will need them. Otys (or even pillars) can be good too

Isei 2 - 0 :entropy vagman13
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Deck import code : [Select]
4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 50u 50u 52q 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5og 77g 77g 77g 8pm

We can get novas to save other stuff from the novabow
Converting probably, unless we do want something

wizelsnarf (G) 2 - 0 :underworld phaedrus
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58o 58o 58q 58q 58s 58s 58s 590 590 590 593 593 593 595 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2We have a chance to make an earth duo, but it won't probably be very good. Discard fodder, I say
... or we could actually make that earth duo

Discard from:

Falcon4415 0 - 2 :light coinich
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c5 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5f6 5f6 5oo 5ut 8pm

We definitely want the heals, and probably also the weapon, graboids and adrenaline. That or pends

edunavas 0 - 2 :fire Dogg
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bt 5bt 5bu 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c6 5c6 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c9 5c9 5de 5de 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5on 5on 5onWavedash wants the air cards

wavedash (Lt) 0 - 2 :aether pikachufan2164
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55q 55s 55s 562 562 562 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c3 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 745 745 745 8pl

Should we save the accelerations + chargers or ditch the gravity duo and get pends?

Net worth of this round, for Isei:

+

-


Post your suggestions!
If it looks messy it's because of the way BBcode works

Isei

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg331870#msg331870
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 12:21:47 am »
It is a little messy... and I beat the immobow, not wavedash.

Falcon4415

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg332208#msg332208
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 02:17:07 pm »
The matches were well in the code, but they failed at showing because last round I figured I could use a template and just update it, but BBcode goes crazy if I do that. I will revert to normal in the next round, please ignore any weird stuff you see.

EDIT: Updated, what do you think we should keep from our decks?
I think we have some cards in our vault that could be easily left aside. I'll finish the list when I get back here.

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg332913#msg332913
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 06:17:30 pm »
With heavy losses, forget the adren staves.

I think we should try to salvage 3x OE and keep our fog shields and shockwaves from discard. This would make a nice air deck.

1st deck: Maybe 3x OE from first deck and 3x Black Dragon? We could use adren devs + dragons or something..

2nd deck: Let's seriously consider salvaging some air pillars or pends - this will ease our conversion problems and give us earthquake resistance.

3rd deck: We had 12 novas in the vault - unless we want to field 2 nova decks per round I say we skip the novas. Instead we could consider the forest spirits, 3 graboids and the fog shield to rebuild our graboid bow.

4th deck: Could salvage 1 graboid... We might also want to consider salvaging a couple tit. shields. Perhaps taking the 3 GotP could be an idea to make a RT gotp/life rush deck. Overall though, this is ripe for conversion so it will depend on the decks we do decide on.

Keep from Discards (deck size minus 25):

1. We need the heals and the staff and the adrenaline. + 1 pend maybe.

2. 3 x shockwave, 2 x fog shield, 1 x scorpion, 2 x dragon ----- then either 3 x staff,  OR 2 x adren OR 2 x mitosis, 1 x adren

3. We have 3 otyugh in the vault - only useful for Wavedash or I since they are useless unupped. We need to decide if we want to use a gravity deck.

If yes, then keep 2 x titan, 3 x charger...

If no, I recommend taking 1 x momentum (for our rainbow) and 4 x cockatrice OR 5 x cockatrice.

Isei

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg332936#msg332936
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 06:50:13 pm »
The event card for round 6 is interesting.  Basically, at this point, it looks like we will want to consolidate to 6 solid decks of 35 cards, if possible, rather than having some options to switch out.  We'll be using all but 7 cards in out vault this round (minimum)

Falcon4415

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg332949#msg332949
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 07:13:49 pm »
This round's event card effectively kills our hopes to use decently-built novabows, right?
I'm probably not the best advisor in here, but I think we should focus on control and healing this round. Does that sound good or is it complete nonsense?
If I'm right, then cool duos for this round could be: gravity (either wizelsnarf or wavedash), water and fire (bolt decks), pestosis, contrOwl, graboids/eqs/fatshields (?), RT spam + dragons or healing (ghosts?)...
We'll have to use all but 7 cards. This not only means we'll have to put key cards in decks where they can be lost, but also that our vault will be 99% exposed this round. I'm tempted to take a pessimistic point of view about our future over this data.

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg333050#msg333050
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 09:34:35 pm »
Btw the entropy/ life was a very good idea so we can try it again
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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg334379#msg334379
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 10:00:36 pm »
PS we cant salvage from the first deck right? I think that I mistakenly overlooked that.

Its due to subbing - but I think you arent allowed to salvage. Correct me if I am wrong please because there are some nice cards. I am pretty sure you can't salvage and pay the penalty from the vault but rather give up salvage rights when you sub?

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26081.msg335094#msg335094
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:38:54 am »
wizelsnarf, we do not get to salvage. I actually asked ddevans about this.

I think our savages from now on should remain very focused, ie we'll be fielding 6 decks only, so they'd better be as good as we can make them. We'll have a sideboard of 7 cards that will not be used. Which ones?

I wish my timezone allowed me to discuss this stuff at this time, but I'm already way into my bedtime. See you a couple hours before the deadline!

 

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