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Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg209907#msg209907
« on: November 26, 2010, 03:22:14 pm »
Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
4 x mummy
2 x fractal
5 x graboid
1 x deflag
6 x dimensional shield


Discarding
none! go team life!

Penalties
-6 (no salvage for the nadrin round 5 deck win because we subbed for him)

Converting
4 x mummy -> Life Pendulums
2 x nova -> Life Pendulums
1 x Antimatter -> Life Pendulums
1 x dragon -> Life Pendulum
2 x adren -> Life Pendulum


Salvaging
Gl1tch 2 (life) - Xuru 0 (death)
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My Suggestion: 4 x mummy, 2 x fractal


(life master) killsdazombies 2 - brettbstock (fire rookie) 0
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My Suggestion: 5 x graboid, 1 x deflagration ---> If we want to make another graboid nova deck, this is our chance. Otherwise we might consider taking all fire cards to beef our fire deck. This might be a good choice if we win with our fire deck this round and want to beef it up.

hrmmm (life) 2 vs. Belthazar666 (time) 0
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My Suggestion: 6 x Dimensional Shield

Discarding

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg210441#msg210441
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 01:54:23 am »
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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg210445#msg210445
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 02:00:25 am »
We got so many delicious salvages this round you have no idea.

Huge boosts for the aether deck, we can now make several fractal and/or phase shield decks, which is good, because they counter rushs and/or fire stalls nicely.

Plus we took down a grab-bow, which will be hella-useful.  We can use it to boost our firestall or make another grab-bow.  <3

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg210738#msg210738
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 12:21:34 pm »
yes, lovely salvages in this round!

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg210837#msg210837
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 03:00:52 pm »
Woah, from the looks of things we have the ability to possibly use two Graboid rushes if we wanted.
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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg211726#msg211726
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 03:14:12 pm »
I suggest that rather than salvaging the Mummys, we might want to boost our Aether card pool, since we beat two Aether-using decks this round. Dim Shields, Lobos and Fractals are all cards we could use.

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg211748#msg211748
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 03:53:17 pm »
okay we already have 6 x dimensional shield from other salvage, should we take 2 x lobotomizer, 4 x dim shield?

or 2 x fractal, 2 x lobotomizer, 2 x dim shield?

or heck 2 x aether pillar, 2 x lobotomizer, 2 x fractal?


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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg212029#msg212029
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 09:24:33 pm »
Spiel's deck.
 Moderator Comment I removed the deck, seeing as we dont actually get to salvage from it, However we dont lose any cards.
Oh look, more Graboids! (penalty for subbing from this match)
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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg212203#msg212203
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 02:24:30 am »
6 decks!!!!  WOOOO!!!! (EDIT:  Errr.... only five  :()

Salvage ideas:  Let's grab the Rage potions and the graboids from the grab-bow, make our firestall better.  Then we can grab phase shields and fractals, and we'll have the following decks:

Graboid rush x 2
Phase shield stall
Fractal deck
Fire stall
FFQ deck


I think this is a good mix.  The FFQ deck does well as an all-around deck, the graboid rushes can panic bow with the random cards we have left in the vault, like arsenic, that we can't get rid of without suiciding.  The aether decks have a lot of flexible cards between them, so what we've got are three anti-stall decks, 2 stall decks, and 1 all-around deck.

I /think/ it'll work.  (FFQ also has a shot against firestall)

Of course, there's the obvious problem of discord, but the firestalls have deflag, the phase shield can stop that, the fractal deck would.... lose, but the graboid rushes are rainbow, and if hope gets big enough, there's no problem there.

I think we're looking at six solid decks:

SALVAGE:
1 x fractal, 5 x phase shield (Belthazaar)
2 x rage potion, 4 x graboid (brettsbock)
1 x dim shield, 2 x lobo, 2 x plague (grab-bows), 1 x aether pillar? (Xuru)

This kicks ass as we'll be fighting 5 matches next round.  Gives us some options.

EDIT:  Forseen problem, phase shield stalls need to be 30+ cards, as do fire stalls.  Life creatures will probably go in firestall, we're running low on those.

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg212218#msg212218
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 02:50:33 am »
I think we need the deflag more than rage potion.

We only have 3 in the vault and if we want to have 2 serious graboid/nova decks, I think they both need to have 2 deflags.... Also it seems to me that 5 graboids would be better than 4, as we are short on life creatures.

That is my opinion what do you all think? I know we are going to take 6 x dim shield one way or another, but the question is do we want mummys, plague, lobotomizers and or fractals ?

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg213593#msg213593
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 02:22:23 pm »
Shall we make a decision on this quickly so we can tweak the decks? I'd rather not have to worry too much about the Vault this turn.


We definitely need the deflags.

As for the other salvage I would recommend lobos and fractals over mummies and plagues. They fit better with our existing decks.

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Re: Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16389.msg213932#msg213932
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 11:23:23 pm »
Alright I am going with 5x graboid, 1 x deflag for sure. That means each grabbow can have 2 deflags hrmmm.


As for the others, we already have 5 fractal in the vault, how many more do we want? we can take up to 4 of them.

We could for example take 4 x fractal, 6 x phase shield, 2 x lobo from the two aether decks we are salvaging. What do you think of that? That would give us the ability for a second fractal deck (one with 5x fractal, one with 4x fractal).


Otherwise I think we should consider taking mummies or Aether Pillars. We could for example take 6 x phase shield, 2 x lobo, 4 x Aether pillar



Let me know so we can settle this.

 

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