Round 5 - Main Topic

[pikachufan2164]

Placeholder; I'll stuff things in when I get off work and start procrastinating on finishing my lab reports for tomorrow

[The_Mormegil]

Earth for Will, TorB for AK, Death for me... this is not good.

Every team will prepare for Firestall, as it is an obvious choice. Unfortunately, we don't have much choice but to field it either. However, we would be mad to field it against Earth - EQs - and TorB - pestal - so I think the obvious choice is Death, and they know it. Hoping they can't answer it (yeeeah, sure).

For the other two matches we basically have a Light duo and a Frogtal. If we field Frogtal vs Earth they will destroy it (no problems with Shields thanks to Pulvy and Deflags, EQs to kill its quanta). If we field it vs TorB we could run into pestal or even just steals. I think the Light duo would be good vs TorB thanks to sanctuaries and the possibility to endow daggers. Also worth mentioning the possibility to use Archangels in there...

If I were to play Frogtal and Will Firestall? Well, of course I would face a Pandebonium and Will would face an EQ rush. If we do the opposite, I'd face heavy poison, maybe even EQ splash, and Will would face a heavy PC rush. Such is the Law of Murphy.

What do you think? Also worth mentioning that we could keep some other cards from last round's decks if we have a good idea...

[ak65ala]

These match ups make me cry...

Um... I like the idea of looking into an adrena-demon deck.  We have the discords and the demons.  I don't know who to use this against, but our other choices have the same problem.  Beyond that idea, we just need to get really lucky.  Figure out what the teams will field against our fire stall and try to build to counter their counter.  The one thing I am happy with is since we only have our fire stall 'shown', it will lead to less CC and something like frogtal or adrena-demon or our light duo might see some less CC and/or straight counters.

Edit: Event card!  I say let's betray.  If we lose all 3, we are done, but that might happen anyway.  as The Mormegil said, if we go 0-3, we are at 31.  If we lose any 1 game against a traitor, we are done for.  Might as well fall with a good showing, and try and get some good salvages?

[The_Mormegil]

These match ups make me cry...

Um... I like the idea of looking into an adrena-demon deck.  We have the discords and the demons.  I don't know who to use this against, but our other choices have the same problem.  Beyond that idea, we just need to get really lucky.  Figure out what the teams will field against our fire stall and try to build to counter their counter.  The one thing I am happy with is since we only have our fire stall 'shown', it will lead to less CC and something like frogtal or adrena-demon or our light duo might see some less CC and/or straight counters.

Edit: Event card!  I say let's betray.  If we lose all 3, we are done, but that might happen anyway.  as The Mormegil said, if we go 0-3, we are at 31.  If we lose any 1 game against a traitor, we are done for.  Might as well fall with a good showing, and try and get some good salvages?

Event Card... well, we have no reason not to betray. Even if we survive, going 0-3 means our whole Vault will be out in the open, so it's a bye for a team next round...

Adrena-demon is possible, but it would mean saving the 4 Discords from the nova-grabby -> no Flying Weapons. We could do that and use Archangels, though.

[willng3]

AdrenaDemons has the potential to work against Death if they play anything besides Pandebonium.  I don't think there's a single creature Death likes throwing around that won't get obliterated by them, but the problem of course is dishing out the damage faster than they can...and that's hindered by Arsenic and Poison.  I doubt AdrenaDemons would work at all against Earth considering it needs a lot of quanta and Grabbows will probably just run right over it.  Not to mention Dragons and other creatures are completely immune.

The matchups currently presented make the most sense to me, although I've said this every round so far and we haven't fared so well, but meh.

[LifeLockable]

well all we can do at this point is make decks from our vault cards and just make a deck to face against decks of our opponents, I'll make a topic later for our enemy's this round and what decks they have shown for the past two rounds so we c an see what we face, problem is earth right now though becuase they have a ton of matches

[ak65ala]

AdrenaDemons has the potential to work ...  I doubt AdrenaDemons would work at all ...

The matchups currently presented make the most sense to me...

I agree.  We are set on this course of action and either we shock the world or we leave the war this round.

Let's go with the decks as posted (perhaps a minor change here and here) and with them see how our fate lays.

[The_Mormegil]

It actually seems a really bad idea to send our Firestall vs Death. Most of their decks have no problem against it.

On the other hand, we don't have many choices. Darkness has TorB's Pestal and Earth has EQ rushes...

I think our Firestall is doomed. Actually, I pretty much think we are doomed, but let's try to go out with a bang!

[ak65ala]

It actually seems a really bad idea to send our Firestall vs Death. Most of their decks have no problem against it.

On the other hand, we don't have many choices. Darkness has TorB's Pestal and Earth has EQ rushes...

I think our Firestall is doomed. Actually, I pretty much think we are doomed, but let's try to go out with a bang!

An idea of mine was to roll a dice.  Whichever team it landed on, got to face our firestall (you know, since they can all beat it) and then we plan the other two duels the same way/with some for of logic. 

It won't serve us any worse than our previous attempts to counter-deck!

This isn't me giving up, this is me knowing I suck at picking the right decks for which opponents and letting random chance have a shot.  But, I'm cool with our normal method as well.  I just know that any team that goes 0-x beyond the top 3 are basically done.  I predict 0 salvage 30 discard for the whole round!

[ak65ala]

Well, it looks like we are all ready for this round.  Willng3, make sure to message the warmaster on our event card selection.  If there is anything else we need to to, I'll be on near the round end.

[willng3]

Willng3, make sure to message the warmaster on our event card selection.

Done.

[ak65ala]

HAHAHAAA.

2 honors, 1 betray.  If we lose all 3 duels, we will discard 103-30-21-21 = 31 cards.

We will not die this round, no matter what!!! (kk, now that you know this, lets go 3-0)

EDIT!! How in the world do we find our decks? The vault has changed over to round 6, and I hope someone saved them somewhere, because there is no decks to use thread....