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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419479#msg419479
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 04:44:39 pm »
The formulas in Row 3 of the sdcp tab somehow got deleted.  I've replaced them.  Please take care not to edit or remove any formulas in the doc.

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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419488#msg419488
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 05:22:37 pm »
@Kevkev: it's probably my fault, I'm copypasting and cutting away things here and there, so I might have cleared the cell for mistake.

@Will: I downgraded a Pend and upgraded both BHs as I don't expect EQs - besides, nova > EQ. I also don't like running two 4-cost cards in a 5 SNova deck: you need 4/5 SNova to cast them both...

Also, I actually inputted the decks in a random order (was trying to build them first, switch them later) but if you think the matchups are nice I'll leave them where they are. I fear Death too, but I think they might go with a Firestall counter this time. :/ I don't know. I kind of expect a Firestall counter from Light too, but all of our other decks are weapon-based and that's suicide against Light in any case. I was thinking of switching Air Duo and Monk deck too, as heavy healing seems to be an acceptable strategy vs Gravity (although they are control heavy), but then I thought about phoenixes and changed my mind.
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419519#msg419519
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 07:01:53 pm »
is our vault up to date? because I asked will yesterday and he wasnt sure, cause I'll put my thoughts in the decks and see if I come up with something new

seems like we are getting countered by sheilds/stalls I think we need to pack some more PC if at all possible

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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419540#msg419540
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 08:19:35 pm »
Unfortunately it's not with what we currently have remaining.  The good news is that most of the decks we have remaining are able to work around Shields and stalls pretty well so that lack of PC is somewhat compensated.

I think our decks are good the way they are currently.  Some areas could see switching to allow improvement, but it seems like we'd just be weakening ourselves elsewhere.
For instance, Firestall might work better against Gravity (the reason I lost with it last time was because I didn't have enough CC to keep up with the creatures), but that Wings deck is pretty much auto-lose against Light so it can't be switched.  If we tried to switch that Air deck in for Fire and then tried Monks against Light then we'd be risking defeat if we faced yet another Dim Shield deck.  Phoenixes run right through Wings and OEs get Deflag'd, meaning we would be relying on drawing a Flying Weapon which is not a good thing.  The disruptionbow really won't work anywhere else and is pretty pitiful with only 3 upgrades.

I think this works.  Hope this works.  Zanz be with us.
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419566#msg419566
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 09:13:27 pm »
Okay so I just realized 5 minutes before the deadline that our decks hadn't been loaded into the Vault spreadsheet.  As a result my deck might have been edited like literally right after the deadline.

There are reasons that I don't take Vault crap into my own hands:  Because I'm likely going to screw something up unless someone communicates to me what needs to be done beforehand.

From this point forward it would be very wise for someone else to take care of all Vault nonsense before the deadline.  I'm really not happy with this.
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419568#msg419568
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 09:21:23 pm »
Okay so I just realized 5 minutes before the deadline that our decks hadn't been loaded into the Vault spreadsheet.  As a result my deck might have been edited like literally right after the deadline.

There are reasons that I don't take Vault crap into my own hands:  Because I'm likely going to screw something up unless someone communicates to me what needs to be done beforehand.

From this point forward it would be very wise for someone else to take care of all Vault nonsense before the deadline.  I'm really not happy with this.
Uhm... decks WERE loaded into the Vault spreadsheet. I took care of that. At least, they WERE loaded (correctly) about two and a half hours BEFORE the deadline.

...did you check the deck building tool?

EDIT: I looked at the Vault and it seems you took the decks from the Deck Building tool, converted them into deck codes and uploaded them into the "Input Deck Code" line. As I understand it, that isn't necessary. I hope I didn't get it wrong. :( Anyway, let's hope we don't have any avoidable penalty for this. :(
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419572#msg419572
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 09:24:50 pm »
They were present within the Deck Building Tool but absent from the Deck Verifier.  Did we not need need to list them beneath the Verifier?
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419573#msg419573
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 09:25:33 pm »
They were present within the Deck Building Tool but absent from the Deck Verifier.  Did we not need need to list them beneath the Verifier?
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419576#msg419576
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2011, 09:27:10 pm »
I honestly don't know either.  As much of a lifesaver as this tool is for Vault conversions, etc., I really wish that we would have just stuck to the Round X Deck Threads method.  Honestly, there's almost no way to screw up with those threads -_-
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419578#msg419578
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2011, 09:29:57 pm »
I honestly don't know either.  As much of a lifesaver as this tool is for Vault conversions, etc., I really wish that we would have just stuck to the Round X Deck Threads method.  Honestly, there's almost no way to screw up with those threads -_-
Hehe. My last War Team and I have some objections...  ::)
Don't worry, though. I think we're ok, unless I screwed up and it was necessary to have the deck codes in. :/ Let's hope I got this right. Anyway, it's just a minor penalty at worse.
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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419703#msg419703
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 03:19:26 am »
I miss the end of one round.....

Well, it looks like us, fire and aether are the culprits to the vault problems.  I don't know what happened but I hope it is not bad.

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Re: Round 4 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33110.msg419704#msg419704
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 03:26:45 am »
Well, bad news.  Turns out that we were one of the three teams who screwed up with the Vault.  It appears that we only added 9 creatures due to the Event Card instead of 18.  Unfortunately I can no longer tell what we did with discards and salvages so I have no way of knowing what went wrong.
It's unfortunate that RL seems to be eating away at all or most of our time because then crap like this happens.  I would like to say that I take the blame for not taking the time to check all of this, but honestly...I haven't had the time.  Sigh...
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