Discussion Round 5

[mathman101]

chatroom: http://titanpad.com/EIH5wHLLmH

Deckbuilding
Duel phase has Started

Duel Phase
Fighting Ends!

Spoiler for Standing Vault:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,51308.0.html

Spoiler for Discards:

27 cards from sky's match

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 8po

27 cards from math's match

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5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c8 5c8 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5ia 5ia 5id 5id 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gp 7gp 8pp

27 cards from zerxil's match

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5c2 5c2 5c2 5c3 5c3 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5lg 5lg 5lh 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 7k2 7k2 7k2 8pq

27 cards from marsu's match

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5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 61r 61r 61r 61r 624 624 624 624 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 8pu

Spoiler for Salvage:

20 cards from rem's match against fire

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592 592 592 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5gi 5gi 5gi 7dg 7dg 7dl 7dl 7f2 7f2 8pm

20 cards from d2d's match against entropy

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 6tv 6tv 6tv 8pu

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6 cards from rem's match against fire

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592 592 592 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5gi 5gi 5gi 7dg 7dg 7dl 7dl 7f2 7f2 8pm

6 cards from d2d's match against entropy

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 6tv 6tv 6tv 8pu

Spoiler for Event Card:

Event Card:
No Image - Never Forgive, Never Forget: If you are fighting a team you lost to last round, you gain an extra 3 upgrades for that deck.

Notes: Only applies for round 4. Example, if death lost to aether last round (round 4), they can use an extra 3 upgrades in a deck against them. This effect can apply more than once, if death lost to aether twice last round, and are fighting them twice again, they may use 3 upgrades in each deck.

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Gen. marsu

vs

Submachine

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mathman101

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Fippe94

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zerxil

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vagman13

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rem4life

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hainkarga

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[rem4life]

First thoughts on d/s:

Discard:
7pillar, 6 staff, 3 adrena, 3 pend, 2 deflag, 6 fl.weap
6 spirit, 4 pend, 2 purify, 2 dragon, 4 nt, 7 w.pillar, 2 shield
2 carapace, 8 pend, 2 reflect, 1 m.star, 4 miracle, 6 sanct, 4 l.pend
6 dragon, 15 pend, 2 pu, 4 silence

leaving
3 adrena, 2 deflag from adrenastaves
5pend, 2 scorps from spiritNt
3 heal, 6 pend from lightstall
2 pu, 1 pend from pugons

Salvage:
1 dragon, 2 bolt, 2 deflag, 3 pend, 2 shield, 10 pillar
4 lighting, 2 pu, 4 dim.sh, 2 fractal, 4 pillar, 4 pend

Spoils (like that would matter much :
2 bolt, 2 deflag, any 2 for transmute
2 fractal, any 4 for transmute

[mathman101]

Taking a bit of a better initial look at our matches and salvage/discards:


( ) their own Gen
~ ~ an enemy Gen

	vs
		( ) ~ ~
		~ ~ ( )
		~ ~ ( )
		( )

Regarding the salvages and discards, I don't think we can really save the spiritNT or Light-Stall decks. but we can probably save parts of the AdrenaStaves and PUgons decks.

Discard:

• SpiritNT(34-27=7): all but 5 Life pends and 2 scorps
• Light Stall(36-27=9): all but 6 Life pends and 3 heals
• AdrenaStaves(32-27=5): all but 5????
• PUgons(30-27=3): all but 1 dragon and 2 PUs

Salvages:

• Entropy: 2 PUs, 2 Fractals, 4 Dim Shields, 4 Lightnings, 4 pillars, 4 Pends (possibly transmute 2)
• Fire: 1 Dragons, 2 Bolts, 2 Deflags, 2 Fire Shields, 2 Golems(possibly for transmute), 4 Pends, 7 Pillars

We'll probably have to convert the graboids(4), fog shields(2), novas(6), (and maybe others)  to pends and pillars unless we can find a way to work them into a grabbow or something.

Decks left for this round:

• darkness duo: "scorpion nightmare"/"devtosis"
• fire duo: "life of the phoenix"
• aether duo: "AdrenaPsions"/"Frogtal"/"PUgons"
• monolife: ??????????????????
• ???grabbow????

we might be able to squeeze a second aether or fire duo together, but it might be better to try a mono life.



these are just some initial thoughts for now, but I'll take a better look later when I've got more time

[rem4life]

So will we have any more suggestions?
Or we procede with what we have?
Its not even weekend yet *points at someone green* 

[zerxil]

what would the negitive be for running 4 decks?

[mathman101]

what would the negitive be for running 4 decks?

right now we have 170 to go towards 4 decks, that averages about 42 cards a deck. we will probably only use 30-40 cards in each deck depending on the build, so there is about 15-40 card space for wiggle room to tweak the decks as needed (assuming we have all the nesscesary cards). so the only real negative or drawback from trying to run a full set of 4 decks with the amount of cards we have, is just that there are less cards to choose from and that it becomes harder(not impossible, just more challenging) to make really good working decks to counter all of our matches.


this round if we go:

4-0: we go up 80 cards putting us up to 250 cards and bring all 6 of us back to battle 
3-1: we gain 33 cards putting us up to 203 cards and back to 5 battles
2-2: we lose 14 cards putting us down to 156 cards and still at 4 battles
1-3: we lose 61 cards putting us down to 109 cards and only 2 battles
0-4: we lose 108 cards putting us down to 62 cards and only 1 battle(Marsu) 


hope this helps zerxil, if not let me know and I will try my best to solve any confusion.