Round 4 Discussion

[mathman101]

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[mathman101]

Well that was a nice break from war, but it looks like R4 is up and we need to get back to work. Here are some of my starting ideas, I'll try to get more done after classes.



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regarding S/D, I'm thinking we should be Salvaging:
        wings from my match to use against entropy, maybe the EE, a a bunch of Life pillars/pends/ and maybe a few others

        Diamond shields from zerxils match, to use with our graboid-bow, and then pillars/pends/life

        deflags for sure and maybe phoenixs form d2ds match, and then more life pends/pillars/cards.

Discards I still need to take a look at, but we can either go two ways:
     discarding mainly life cards, and then re-salvaging them back to keep essentially all the same decks.

    or we can discard a combo of life cards and others and then salvage to try and make a few completly new decks. (right now I can see a possible / duo rush with deflags and phoenixs. a  / duo with wings and EE)


got to head off to my next class(calculus) but i'll update the OP with the times and re-add more complete ideas to this after.

[mathman101]

I thought I should try too throw some more ideas on here, as I haven't seen much else here yet.



I'm thinking we could maybe use this deck against air or gravity. phoenixs get reborn so could work well against thunderstorm or gravy pull, are airborn for wings, and low enough hp to slide under gravity shield

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For this we would need to salvage 5 phoenix,3 rage pots, 3 bolts. (maybe deflags depending on what other decks we send)

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If we are to try doing something with devtosis again I would suggest Ebonds for healing before vamps. maybe this could go against entropy, the only cc threat from them i feel will be pandemonium, so by the time its useful this should have them locked down.

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A grabbow deck might work against death or gravity. it has a bit more defense for the weaker attacking creatures, and it has the deflags to stop unruly shields or weapons. also the arsenic and scorps can get early poison if lucky draw.

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For this deck we would need to Salvage at least 2 diamond shields. (maybe deflags depending on what other decks we send)

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a silenced version of PUgons might work against Darkness, ?maybe?. the silences are for a short drain life and other cc hide. the em. shield are so they can't steal.

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this might work against death or air possibly. complete stall with minimal damage lots of healing. thorn is for getting rid of creatures. reflect is for spell damage(ugs)

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would need to salvage 4 miracles, 6 sancs, 1 morning star, 2 reflective shields. and transmute 6 heals.

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still modifying this, but just wanted to get these next two ideas out there.

[rem4life]

Here's what i thought of:

discards:
4 silence, 3 pillar, 11 pendulum from frogtal
1 momentum, 1 arsenic, 1 fog, 1 nm, 2 spirits, 2 adrena, 7 pendulum, 1 heal, 2 graboid from rainbow
4 pu, 10 pendulum, 4 adrena from psions

salvage:
5 wings, 3 oe, 3 dragons, 7 pillar from toads
6 sanct, 2 reflect, 4 miracle, 6 ss (not sure of this - could be shields, as math suggested) from immortal -
5 phoenix, 3 deflag, 3 rage pots, 3 bolts, 4 pendulum from firestall

decks:
dark domin vs entropy
phoenix vs fire
spiriTNT vs death
light stall vs air
adrenastaves+deflag vs gravity
pugons vs darkness

don't remember the reasons to why i picked these...it was a week ago..

would agree to run mitodevs+emp.bonds vs entro
and there is logic to run phoenix vs air, yet i feel the ug coming our way this round..
darkness...probably we can even go with something completely funny here, to avoid losing hte cards we would need in future rounds, dont feel us winning here..

didnt count the need of pendulums to run all the decks, but i feel like we might need to spend some time calculating those..

im pretty busy with the work now, so some help from team would be more than acceptable!

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