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Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200538#msg200538
« on: November 13, 2010, 09:02:06 pm »
Round 4 - Decks
Duel phase has started


1. killsdazombies vs. Miniwally :water
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2. Gl1tch vs. implosion :light
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4vg 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vm 4vm 4vn 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c2 5c2 5c4 5c4 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 6u6 6u6 6u6

3. willng3 vs. TimerClock14 :earth
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4. ratchetspyro94 vs. 9270984 :darkness
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5. hrmmm vs. Stinger  :fire
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6. Daxx vs. $$$man :earth
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7. wizelsnarf vs. Klaymore :air
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8. Nadrin vs. Wizardcat :light
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9. YeliyaYue vs. Acsabi44 :fire
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5c2 5c2 5c4 5c4 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5f6 5f6 5f6
:life cards used:
vault according to wizel's salvage info:
in vault  used 
pillar88
dragons77
frogs15 max15
cockatrice77
spirit22
heal1919
thorn
emerald shield44
bonds22
adrenaline1515
scorpions55
pendulums9292
druidics33

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200658#msg200658
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 11:21:28 pm »
Oh man, Round 4 is going to be tough.


P.S. I am going to have to ask that every one put in a DECK REQUEST BY TOMORROW (by the 3 days left deadline)

this way we will have time to change decks/ make sure we have the cards, clear up the vault and salvage etc. Please post your requested deck in this thread and then we can discuss from there.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200680#msg200680
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 11:45:36 pm »
totally agree with wizel here.
our vault is shrinkin and we need a overview for the decks and the vault.

Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200727#msg200727
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 12:49:40 am »
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I came up with this for my match but my best is that they are going to steal the Discords and use them to their advantage. Which is mostly noticable since they are Team  :darkness.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200732#msg200732
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 01:12:22 am »
I liked my old deck,
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200741#msg200741
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 01:32:49 am »
I would like to use this deck.

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I realize it's a bit thick, but analyzing the decks :earth used last round, it seems that they have not used a deck above 34 cards recently; the 35 here prevents a deck out situation, which I'm fairly certain will arise.  I'm not really concerned about EQs that much; I can limit myself to playing ~2 Pendulums at a time and simply make them waste them.  Devourer could cause a problem, though I doubt it without the use of Fractal.  Owl's Eye is just for an edge against Shrieker rush, or something more dangerous; I can switch it out for something better if anyone has any better ideas.  Extra Adrenaline for spawning :light faster and to get Hope up ASAP.
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200796#msg200796
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 03:35:21 am »
Ratchet, life spam darkness.  It's your best hope.  Cockatrice, frogs, heals, and pillars, try to out rush the devourers.

Actually, your deck is exactly what I'd like to take versus light...

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200851#msg200851
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 05:48:42 am »
I'd like to use the fire control that was posted in the Earth thread, unless anyone has any better ideas for me.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg200975#msg200975
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 01:20:34 pm »
hmm .. after a closer look on your deck daxx... this might work.

moving daxx's deck suggestion:
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 :fire has  stupid thick vault, and i have a feeling that they will pack something we had not seen before -.-
but i expect fire shield, rof, phoenix and a evil in duo (entropy? earth? air? aether?)
i would like to go with:
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... or a simple cokatrice/dragon rush, with a darkness splash:
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i havent decided yet for giving us a deck flexibility we might need.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg201068#msg201068
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 04:59:30 pm »
I would like to take a deck like this if possible.
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Otherwise I would like to use a darkness deck with lots of steals.

Air has 2 great shields in wings and fog so I want to make sure I destroy/steal those.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg201072#msg201072
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 05:07:35 pm »
Oh my god I just had a beautiful idea.

We have 12 phase shields in the vault.  Someone should take a phase shield stall with shields, lightnings, and heals.

What are the odds light brings PC against us?  Let me check their decks...

Yea, they didn't bring /any/ last round, they might not have it.  But they do have lances, so that might not be a good idea.  Discord has proven to be killer against light, since they don't have PC, but discord doesn't make a deck.  And they /do/ have a rainbow.  They just lost with it, but it exists.  It's most obvious deck, a nova mutant deck, was taken by yeliyayue and lost to fire stall.  Maybe I upgrade those chaos seeds?

Most of their stuff is pretty similar.  They've really got a few main decks (that we saw last round).  1. Water stall.  Freeze and lance and miracle.  2.  Firestall.  Rage and lance and miracle.  3.  Earth stall.  SS and EQ and miracle.  4.  Aether stall.  Shield and lightning and miracle.  5.  Rainbow rush, with dive.

It's times like these I wish we had eternities.

The simple jade shield solution won't work due to mirror shield.  Maybe if we can avoid their miracle I /might/ be able to eeek out a win with fractal frogs.... maybe.  Quints might work well too.

Whatever we use, I absolutely has to have a few things.  1.  No buffs.  The CC light has makes this impossible.  2.  Some way of getting around/past miracle.  3.  Minor amounts of CC.  Just enough to stop blessed scorps or divers.

It'd be great if it had cheap stuff too to avoid EQ, but things can't be perfect.

Seeing as we have two fights versus light, it looks like a mutant deck (fallen elves, novas, whatever creatures we aren't using) and a phase shield stall (heals, shields, lightnings) would work best.


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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15661.msg201076#msg201076
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2010, 05:16:02 pm »
I only fear firebolts that go past the phase shields.

That said, they did not bring mirror shield against yeli in the light/fire stall (which was a huge mistake on their part honestly) Should we hope they make it again? I don't know...

PS the vault is NOT UPDATED. That means that any deck that lost last round had to discard 18 and is probably not viable as it was.

 

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