Round 2 - Strategies

[wavedash]

Fire Bolt stall without Jade Shield? Uh.

Also, should I just not suggest decks from now on and save myself time?

[PlayerOa]

Fire Bolt stall without Jade Shield? Uh.

Also, should I just not suggest decks from now on and save myself time?

Ouch.
Forgot that... We can change Carpace to Jade

[wizelsnarf]

Fire Bolt stall without Jade Shield? Uh.

Also, should I just not suggest decks from now on and save myself time?

Some of your suggestions were good. Some I thought I could improve on. It is nothing against you and I hope you continue to feel comfortable contributing. The decks I made last round won - of course that was luck not skill. It's good to have a back and forth on something rather than what I say goes. So feel free to disagree with me its better for the team to have diverse ideas.


If you have a good idea build it and test it. We can test against round 1 decks now to give us an idea of what cards teams have. I could use some help getting kitty's deck done too.

[wizelsnarf]

STALL vs

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(Note - this is just an idea and needs testing, EB can be changed for heals)

Just a thought - we dont have that many mitosis and we barely have enough pendulums. Rage Potion is a great card that offers CC and can get your dragons from 10|6 to 15|1 for a final kill hit. I suggest you replace mitosis with rage potion and the bonds with more dragons. Also, we can't afford to give you that many pendulums (and frankly I don't think you nee them) so figure out a way to reduce them from 18 to maybe 14 or 15 max. Thanks!

Okay; ministall:

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Okay so change to jade shield and maybe add 1 or 2 cards to prevent a deckout situation.

[PlayerOa]

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(Note - this is just an idea and needs testing, EB can be changed for heals)

Just a thought - we dont have that many mitosis and we barely have enough pendulums. Rage Potion is a great card that offers CC and can get your dragons from 10|6 to 15|1 for a final kill hit. I suggest you replace mitosis with rage potion and the bonds with more dragons. Also, we can't afford to give you that many pendulums (and frankly I don't think you nee them) so figure out a way to reduce them from 18 to maybe 14 or 15 max. Thanks!

Okay; ministall:

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Okay so change to jade shield and maybe add 1 or 2 cards to prevent a deckout situation.

I'll do it tomorrow.

[Falcon4415]

It's a pity we are discarding those shields, they were much superior than carapaces in this matchup. This is the best I can think of within the strategy we had set up.

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The amount of Arsenics might be a little off, perhaps it would be a good idea to replace one with a pillar? And is it consistent with the number of pillars and shields we have?
Also, if edunavas is taking the poison deck, I'll use only 5 poisons and another pillar.

Looking at past war, has pretty much behaved as I had expected and has fielded anything from a rush to a Phase shield stall. Poison can be good here, let's hope we are as lucky as in the last round.

[wizelsnarf]

That deck should be fine  falcon - we have enough pillars to run a pillar only deck (currently 14 of them and you are using 8...)

If you would prefer the skull shield - we can still change the salvage. How about we keep the 2 skull shields we had and instead discard our solar bucklers?

[wizelsnarf]

I am having trouble figuring out something good for kitty vs entropy.... the deck shantu played last round is super simple and incredibly fast. It is really ridiculous how OP discord is when you look at that deck.

If anyone has any ideas let me know.

After testing both against the entropy diss shield/bolt stall and their dragon/discord rush, I think this deck is the best I can do for kitty. If you get the phase shield up you are pretty safe... It is just a matter of getting it up. The only trouble is deflags and them but its the best I can do to counter their best deck (discord/dragon rush).

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[wizelsnarf]

What about a deck like this for promwarm vs gravity?

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The bad part about it is that if they bring a shield that blocks damage or wings its GG. Maybe drop 2 scorps for 2 dragons and add a pillar?

[Falcon4415]

If you would prefer the skull shield - we can still change the salvage. How about we keep the 2 skull shields we had and instead discard our solar bucklers?

I think this could be a good idea, as the deck benefits from being able to take down Phoenixes and Golems and anyway in the life/light duo Sancs and Solar Shields don't work together. Then again, I wouldn't like to be one-sidedly deciding a salvage when the team has decided otherwise, and the deck does seem decent (except against Golems and Phoenixes) so it wouldn't matter a lot.

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- 1 Shield, + 1 Pendulum
As for your deck, do note that even if your Sanctuary gets stolen the effect still applies that turn, allowing you to put down another one the turn after and thus saving your ass a couple more turns. Pestosis can suffer a lot from T-bolt, but it can also shut down mark-splashed decks. I don't really know how Higs plays, so this is as far as I can go.

kitty's deck seems good. Entropy is unpredictable, so it's understandable that it's hard to make a good deck for such matchups. A high pendulum count could help to reduce the effect of discord, maybe?

Damn, just saw your post, I was going to suggest the RT deck here. Definitely add a couple of dragons, just in case.

EDIT: I'm going for the night, but feel free to tweak my deck as you wish, you are the best player in here. You don't have to ask me first (your choices were probably better in the last round).

[wizelsnarf]

Thanks Falcon - glad to have your input.

Im gonna give you the deck you want, -1 skull + 1 pend.

I will alter kitty's deck with +2 dragons, -2 scorpions I think (it had plenty of quanta in testing late game so the dragons could be played later)

I am still equivocating on my deck vs higs. I am so afraid of Pestal/devourer fractal that I have done all my testing there. Against other aether decks though, the mitosis minor phoenix would probably work well. Its a tough call as both decks have different strengths. I will have to think about my deck.


Thanks man I am glad to have someone else besides me working on this near the deadline.

[wavedash]

Don't bother with 31 cards if you're using Reverse Times, they'll bring your deck down to essentially 25.

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Thoughts? I sort of only have two unupgraded Discords, looking for a third, will replace a Pendulum