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Re: Round 2 - Strategies - POST IN THE FUCKING THREAD ALREADY https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312224#msg312224
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 12:17:19 pm »
I'm playing against Earth.  Would the bow deck be a good idea?

Also, an air duo seems like it might be a good choice, for wings.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies - POST IN THE FUCKING THREAD ALREADY https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312231#msg312231
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 01:10:33 pm »
Kitty said she would be gone for 2 weeks, it has only been one.

I have been very very busy with work. Fortunately it is Friday and when I get off I can focus on preparation tonight.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies - POST IN THE FUCKING THREAD ALREADY https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312258#msg312258
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 02:33:07 pm »
I'm playing against Earth.  Would the bow deck be a good idea?

Also, an air duo seems like it might be a good choice, for wings.
IIRC, they slaughtered 6 grabows last round that were fielded for fear of earthquake.

I'll leave this here and edit in a while.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312510#msg312510
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2011, 11:16:22 pm »
Here is one deck I am considering. Aether LOVES using Pest-fractal against us. Why I don't know as it had mixed success last war - I mean our creatures are cheap. The real pain are the steals which make the deck below a tad bit risky. If your sanctuary gets stolen and you dont have a backup you are screwed.
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The point, of course, is simply to stall your way to victory.

 :life :earth stall was too slow to counter pests. Earthquakes on Turn 3 aren't bad, but with a pend/pillar split for the aether quanta you can't really stop the fractal...

So maybe I should take pestosis?
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It is a little risky because if they bring pests then they can fractal mine in the worst case scenario. Also, basically whoever gets set up first wins. So it isn't so much about the deck but the card draw. Whoever has the better, faster hand wins...

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312526#msg312526
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2011, 11:42:43 pm »
For Pestosis, upgrade Life cards so you can go with all Pendulums and you don't have to rely on the Pillar / Pendulums split.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312535#msg312535
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2011, 11:55:50 pm »
My thoughts on everyone's decks (without having researched what each team played last round)

wizelsnarf vs Higuarshi  General

See above. They like using pest-fractal against us which is hard to counter. The decks I designed have no trouble vs phase shield. Last round she used graboid twin universe deck. Pestosis might kill that in the butt by eliminating the time quanta - but its risky if they also bring pestosis. Mitosis minor phoenix with explosions for her shield is another good option. Or even the firestall.


wavedash vs Daxx

Death brought a nutty discord/bh against us last round. I bet they will use it against another team. They have a stone skin stall too. I kind of want to recommend a discord deck. Something like I brought perhaps with upped druids.


edunavas vs SpikeSpiegel  General

2 thoughts. Discord will probably beat him - teams never expect the same deck twice in a row. That aside, a poison based deck could be pretty sweet and I think your idea is good. Test it against Time general decks from War # 2 to make sure.


Falcon4415 vs Dogg

That deck you posted could be good. I expect a rush deck from fire. We don't really have the skull shields so maybe thorn carapace or emerald instead? Emerald can't be exploded. Let's try not to use duo decks that match our opponent's team. IE lose with a fire/life deck vs fire.


Isei vs Terroking

Very tough match. They totally will own our creatures with shields and can stall us to hell. Wavedash's gravity/momentum deck is a good suggestion. Another option might be a poison/dragon/heal stall deck.

promwarm vs thenewguy

Gravity took a hit to their vault last round. However I expect them to do better this round. They have a lot of pros on their team and they are going to pick it up. Blackhole was a favorite of theirs. Discord is their friend too. If they bring momentum - our shields are useless. We don't really have any CC other than thunderbolts and reverse time. I think we should bring the reverse time. If we are afraid of shields they might bring (phase shields, for example) we might want to make it a rainbow and toss in some explosions and thunderbolts as well but that is risky with blackhole. Certainly an option is to bring our sanctuary deck. It might be really really good here. We could just stall them out.

EDIT:  I also think earthquakes with a stoneskin/earth/life stall could be painful on them. Gravity cards are all expensive earthquake could really put a pinch on their quanta.

PlayerOa vs tikotribe

Ice Shield is a bitch and it works really well against life. So does fireshield. We need to bring a firebolt/explosion/dragon deck against them. Something like the one life brought from war 2. With RP and fireshield too. Make it 36 cards and try to do a bolt/dragon combo on them. Wavedash's mitosis frog idea is too risky vs shields. Life gets owned by shields. In fact when I consider other teams I consider what shields they might bring first - and it isn't always their elemental shields either.


kitty45 vs 3D House of Beef 

Another tough match and we have to sub. I like the discord/crusader idea - it might catch them off guard. However, they are the team of nova and it could backfire. I would guess they will discord rush us. Maybe flying discords, or dragons and discords. Something simple and quick after their misfortune with dissipation shields. We need to counter that threat.

This is another place we might consider our sanctuary deck. I think a pest deck would also be an option here. Maybe a quinted/adren frog or quinted/mitosis frog? Cheap and safe from CC. Actually a fireshield/explosion adren frog deck my work. It would be fast and we could break through their shield and try to win. Cheap cards obviously.




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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312810#msg312810
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2011, 08:28:03 am »
My thoughts on everyone's decks (without having researched what each team played last round)

wizelsnarf vs Higuarshi  General

See above. They like using pestosis against us which is hard to counter. The decks I designed have no trouble vs phase shield. Last round she used graboid twin universe deck. Pestosis might kill that in the butt by eliminating the time quanta - but its risky if they also bring pestosis. Mitosis minor phoenix with explosions for her shield is another good option. Or even the firestall.


wavedash vs Daxx

Death brought a nutty discord/bh against us last round. I bet they will use it against another team. They have a stone skin stall too. I kind of want to recommend a discord deck. Something like I brought perhaps with upped druids.


edunavas vs SpikeSpiegel  General

2 thoughts. Discord will probably beat him - teams never expect the same deck twice in a row. That aside, a poison based deck could be pretty sweet and I think your idea is good. Test it against Time general decks from War # 2 to make sure.


Falcon4415 vs Dogg

That deck you posted could be good. I expect a rush deck from fire. We don't really have the skull shields so maybe thorn carapace or emerald instead? Emerald can't be exploded. Let's try not to use duo decks that match our opponent's team. IE lose with a fire/life deck vs fire.


Isei vs Terroking

Very tough match. They totally will own our creatures with shields and can stall us to hell. Wavedash's gravity/momentum deck is a good suggestion. Another option might be a poison/dragon/heal stall deck.

promwarm vs thenewguy

Gravity took a hit to their vault last round. However I expect them to do better this round. They have a lot of pros on their team and they are going to pick it up. Blackhole was a favorite of theirs. Discord is their friend too. If they bring momentum - our shields are useless. We don't really have any CC other than thunderbolts and reverse time. I think we should bring the reverse time. If we are afraid of shields they might bring (phase shields, for example) we might want to make it a rainbow and toss in some explosions and thunderbolts as well but that is risky with blackhole. Certainly an option is to bring our sanctuary deck. It might be really really good here. We could just stall them out.

EDIT:  I also think earthquakes with a stoneskin/earth/life stall could be painful on them. Gravity cards are all expensive earthquake could really put a pinch on their quanta.

PlayerOa vs tikotribe

Ice Shield is a bitch and it works really well against life. So does fireshield. We need to bring a firebolt/explosion/dragon deck against them. Something like the one life brought from war 2. With RP and fireshield too. Make it 36 cards and try to do a bolt/dragon combo on them. Wavedash's mitosis frog idea is too risky vs shields. Life gets owned by shields. In fact when I consider other teams I consider what shields they might bring first - and it isn't always their elemental shields either.


kitty45 vs 3D House of Beef 

Another tough match and we have to sub. I like the discord/crusader idea - it might catch them off guard. However, they are the team of nova and it could backfire. I would guess they will discord rush us. Maybe flying discords, or dragons and discords. Something simple and quick after their misfortune with dissipation shields. We need to counter that threat.

This is another place we might consider our sanctuary deck. I think a pest deck would also be an option here. Maybe a quinted/adren frog or quinted/mitosis frog? Cheap and safe from CC. Actually a fireshield/explosion adren frog deck my work. It would be fast and we could break through their shield and try to win. Cheap cards obviously.




Let me know what you think yall.
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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312812#msg312812
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2011, 08:34:20 am »
STALL vs :water

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312873#msg312873
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2011, 11:14:02 am »
I'm sorry, I've got a commitment to attend today.  I probably won't be available for at least 12 hours.  If no one comes up with a better idea, I'm fine with using the gravity/life duo as aforementioned.  As of posting this, we still have >24 hours anyway, but just so you all have a general idea of what I'm doing.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312894#msg312894
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2011, 12:28:47 pm »
edunavas vs SpikeSpiegel  General

2 thoughts. Discord will probably beat him - teams never expect the same deck twice in a row. That aside, a poison based deck could be pretty sweet and I think your idea is good. Test it against Time general decks from War # 2 to make sure.
Wize, I like the idea of using the same deck you used. It´s always a surprise. Even without the upped cards you used, I think I can use it. The druids I can use to kill the enemy creatures. And It´s better if he use upped Ghost.
Mine deck idea is good too, it works well. But for the general, maybe Discord better.
It´s up to you.

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312968#msg312968
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2011, 03:55:35 pm »
STALL vs :water

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Just a thought - we dont have that many mitosis and we barely have enough pendulums. Rage Potion is a great card that offers CC and can get your dragons from 10|6 to 15|1 for a final kill hit. I suggest you replace mitosis with rage potion and the bonds with more dragons. Also, we can't afford to give you that many pendulums (and frankly I don't think you nee them) so figure out a way to reduce them from 18 to maybe 14 or 15 max. Thanks!

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Re: Round 2 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24381.msg312972#msg312972
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2011, 04:06:51 pm »
STALL vs :water

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Just a thought - we dont have that many mitosis and we barely have enough pendulums. Rage Potion is a great card that offers CC and can get your dragons from 10|6 to 15|1 for a final kill hit. I suggest you replace mitosis with rage potion and the bonds with more dragons. Also, we can't afford to give you that many pendulums (and frankly I don't think you nee them) so figure out a way to reduce them from 18 to maybe 14 or 15 max. Thanks!
Okay; ministall:
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