Round 2 - Strategies

[PlayerOa]

So round 2 battles is here.

promwarm vs thenewguy Gravity
Isei vs Terroking Earth
wizelsnarf vs Higurashi (general) Aether
Falcon4415 vs Dogg Fire
kitty45 vs 3D House of Beef Entropy
wavedash vs Daxx Death
edunavas vs SpikeSpiegel (general) Time
PlayerOa vs tikotribe Water

[edunavas]

Hello my friends.

I´ll battle Time General, he already battle against our general last round.
I was studding Time.
Last round Wize used a Discord deck with some poison (forest scorpion) and the Time General tried using the same strategie, discord with poison (dune scorpion)

They used a lot of light cards. like sanctuares, blessings, miracles, crusaders, and armaggios, mommentuns, EQ, graboids, , nightmares, steals.
Well, last war I was on team Time and on round 3 I won the battle against hrmmm in team life, I used a fractal scarab deck and he used a fire stall deck.
Hope he won´t use a fractal scarab deck.

Backing to this war, last round almost time decks lost to poisonous decks, less 

I´ll try to make a poison rush deck, at first mono life, and second a duo  / deck.
Other suggestions?

[Falcon4415]

Very hard round here if you ask me. This will be a true test for the team.

[PlayerOa]

Hello my friends.

I´ll battle Time General, he already battle against our general last round.
I was studding Time.
Last round Wize used a Discord deck with some poison (forest scorpion) and the Time General tried using the same strategie, discord with poison (dune scorpion)

They used a lot of light cards. like sanctuares, blessings, miracles, crusaders, and armaggios, mommentuns, EQ, graboids, , nightmares, steals.
Well, last war I was on team Time and on round 3 I won the battle against hrmmm in team life, I used a fractal scarab deck and he used a fire stall deck.
Hope he won´t use a fractal scarab deck.

Backing to this war, last round almost time decks lost to poisonous decks, less 

I´ll try to make a poison rush deck, at first mono life, and second a duo  / deck.
Other suggestions?

Fractal scorpions?

[edunavas]

Fractal scorpions?

A good idea too. I´ll try it.
The vault is alread decided?
We need Isei to make the new vault.

[Falcon4415]

I think that the deck I talked about with you for edunavas might actually be more useful in my hands. How about something like this:

by Falcon4415

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Not thoroughly tested, might not be actually good. I still have to investigate more, but what do you guys think?

[wavedash]

I'm going to try something a little bit different. Take everything I say with a grain of salt, as it's 90% guessing.

promwarm vs Gravity
We haven't played Gravity yet, but they will no doubt look at our round 1 results and see that we have been rather successful with defensive / stall decks. I'm expecting an Acceleration rush. Adrenaline is actually rather useful against Acceleration used on smaller creatures like Chargers, especially so if we include a Thorn Carapace. An all-out Life rush should be able to outrush Gravity, especially if we throw in a couple Heals and Thorn Carapaces.

Isei vs Earth
We've already showed our hand of Novas to everyone, and they will know that we have like 50 of them. I propose Accelerated Armagios and Chargers. They can take a lot of abuse, simple Chargers don't give a shit about Reverse Time, and they should be able to overtake any Stone Skin / Miracle bullshit.

wizelsnarf vs Aether
Aether used all kinds of control last round. They'll probably expect a heavy CC deck and use immortal boring something blah. Mitosis rush can outrush a deck with expensive Phase Dragons or hands clogged up with useless Quintessences.

Falcon4415 vs Fire
Fire hasn't been very successful with defensive / stall decks. At all. I'm expecting a rush. Fire Shield / Cockatrice to combat that, perhaps?

kitty45 vs Entropy
Entropy's been doing pretty shitty so far using mis-matched heavy CC decks. In my opinion, Entropy is the best element, I'm sort of at a loss. I'd like to see Crusaders just so we can dick around with Discord Saders. Basically, what happened over here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24171.0.html). Not sure about what they might bring.

wavedash vs Death
They know we have Purify, probably shouldn't use those, not to mention how they actually haven't been using all that much Poison. Death still has Mummies and Recluses, I'm expecting those to come out, maybe with a duo element. Either way, I vote Fractal something.

edunavas vs Time: Fractal Scorpions sounds good.

PlayerOa vs Water
We predicted either heavy CC or a rush last round, Isei was able to pull through. Team Water will either expect the same type of CC-resistant rush or a stall. Steam Machines with Rage Potions probably beats any sort of defensive rush we have, and Ice Bolt sudden kill beats our stalls. Mitosis Frogs with 2-3 Jade Shields takes care of both threats.

[edunavas]

Hello
Well, I prepared 3 decks for me against 

Scorpion rush

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Fractal scorpions

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Poison your time

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Well, this deck is great, I don´t need penduluns to play poison cause they only cost one death quanta. So with lots of life quanta I prepared a some scorpions to help poison,, some cockatrices and dragons to help hit. Low cost creatures to deal with rewind. While dyeing with poison I can heal myself and play a shield to deal with creatures, that includes fractal scarabs in case they use.

So for me the best option against  is this last deck Poison your time

[promwarm]

I did a quick analysis of the succesful (winning) Gravity decks from last war, round 2, 3 and 4.
This were 4 games, not that much.

2/4 used entropy mark with 4 discords
2/4 black holed their opponents with 6 (!) black holes
3/4 used chargers so I think we can skip our shields or need to use a lobotizer to disable the momentum

So I need a deck that's not very quanta heavy, because they will certainly try to deny my quanta, either by discord or BH.

I'm thinking rustler > immolate > phoenix with heals, deflags and 2 dragons just in case I end up with lots of quanta.
However I'm not sure we have those cards in our vault. All other Google services except the search engines are disabled so I can't check the Vault at this location.

[edunavas]

Hi promwarm.

Or maybe you can use a discord deck.
Try to analyse the decks they used this war, and see what decks they won and lost, and against what type of decks they lost. And what cards they have.
I liked your deck idea too, but we don´t have immolation... that´s one thing I don´t understand, we have phoenix but no immolations...phoenixes cost too much without immo. I think you have to try some other thing...

[PlayerOa]

Hi promwarm.

Or maybe you can use a discord deck.
Try to analyse the decks they used this war, and see what decks they won and lost, and against what type of decks they lost. And what cards they have.
I liked your deck idea too, but we don´t have immolation... that´s one thing I don´t understand, we have phoenix but no immolations...phoenixes cost too much without immo. I think you have to try some other thing...

Phoenixes is pretty much for 'upped' decks, with MP's.

[edunavas]

That is this topic name?
Where is everybody?
Kitty didn´t back?
Helllooo