Round 2 Discussion

[mathman101]

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Deckbuilding
Duel Phase has started

Duel Phase
Fighting Ends!

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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,51308.0.html

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Event Card:

Notes: Post in your private section in a topic titled "Round 2 Event Card" specifying which mark you think each of your opponents will use. For every correct guess, you gain 1 Relic.

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dawn to dusk

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brusterix

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Gen. marsu

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Gen inthisroom

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skyironsword

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submachine

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mathman101

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serprex

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zerxil

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bogtro

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rem4life

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vagman13

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[mathman101]

Ok, after taking some time to think about last round's decks and this round's discard/salvage/spoils I had a few ideas.


Anything after round 8 we use just the spoils, so we should start thinking of possible decks now to start working to build skeletons for.
I was thinking to start maybe work towards a type of grabbow. or a possible  strong duo

• 4(3) graboids, 1 earthquakes and 1(2) pend from d2d's match
• 2 steals, 1 nightmare and then transmute 3 pends from marsu's match
• 1 Arsenic, 1 flying weapon and :4 life pends from sky's match

For Salvage and Discard we need to think about how we are going to want to alter and modify our current set of possible decks. I think the best idea would be to discard mostly pends/pillars this round(about 15-18).
We can possibly discard and salvage 2steals, 1 vampire stilletto, and 1 flying weapon for a net change of zero on these cards saving a few pends/pillars.
I would suggest to discard:

• 6 pends from my match
• 5(4) pillars, 1 flying weapon, and maybe (1) adrenaline from rem's match
• 6(5) pends, maybe 1 steal from zerxil's match

and for salvages:

• 1 graboid, 2(3) EQ not sure what else from d2d's match
• 3 steals, 1 vampire stiletto, 2(1) nymph tears and maybe (1) nightmare from marsu's match
• 1 flying weapon, 1(2) arsenic, and 4(3) wings from sky's match

not sure about if we are needing any transmutations yet, but i try to think about it, just in case.
not 100% sure on all these, but these are just my better ideas for now of what could work. anything to get the ball rolling.

I also have some ideas for possible decks this round, but I will be posting those later as I have to head out for a bit right away.

[rem4life]

Still on phone, so quickly:
Spoils:
 5 graboids, 1 pend
2 steals, 1nm, 3 pends
1 arsenic, 5 pends

Discards:
6 pends
2 steal, 1 stilletto, 3 pends
Fw, adren, depending on what we salvage

Salvage:
1graboid, 4eq, 1rt
2nt, 2 steal, 1nm?, 1stilletto
3arse, 3spiders/wings or fw if previously discarded

Spoiling ideas will change a lot after round2, as we fight different elements. Grabbow is a good idea, but that is not enough. Need to find the strongest possible duos and stick to those, probably transmuting elements we won't use from beginning. As they can't be changed later.

Salvaging- do we put in something new or keep decks as they are?
Enough..takes too long editing typos on the phone:)

[Marsu]

Just wanted to let you know that I won't be on, or only for a short time, the next 30 hours. Weekend stuff.

[mathman101]

ok, I finally have some time here. sorry for being slow, all my profs decideded to bombard the assignments all at once. anyways...

looking at our matches for this round I've had a few ideas, not much testing more just looks and ideas.

  : they also face death,earth,time,light,gravity this round, so they probably won't be as worried about us for now. I'm thinking that they may come at us with either a version of RoL/Hope or something based on psions, as we haven't shown much heavy hitters and little momentum as well as showing little jade shield defense. my thinking for this is maybe the wizzlesnarf deck.

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Something like this maybe, jade shield stops psions and slows RoLs

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  : they also face water,entropy,time,earth,light this round, i feel time and earth are going to be biggar threats then us. We lost using an adrenaStaves to them last round so they will probably be expecting something different this round. They might try using their parasites on us to stop adrenaline, so I'm thinking we should try something with the dragons or the forest spirits here.

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the dragons have more health and could take a bit more from parasites as well as using the PUs to create multiples from the start

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the spirits will grow to avoid the poison from a parasite for a bit, if needed the purifys could be used on the spirits to help.

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  : they also face death,air,fire,darkness,water this round, probably us and darkness are their biggest threats so we'll need our game face here. I'm thinking they may bring some form of nova-bow with discords, so probably not mito-devs here. maybe salvage some wings to stop the discords and use adrenastaves, they haven't shown any AoE spells so maybe a frogtal.

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the wings could stop the discord, and the rest a basic adrenaStaves

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maybe I'm thinking too hard about this, but I'll throw this out for now to show some ideas, and I'll keep modifying this for the rest.

[rem4life]

Dark domin vs aether (transmute scorps needed) or wizzel here
SpiriTNT vs fire
Staves+deflag vs gravity (lt for d2d needed)
PUgons+carapace vs light
Grabbow or wizzel vs darkness
Psions vs entropy

What do you think?

[mathman101]

Spoiler for rem's quote:

Dark domin vs aether (transmute scorps needed) or wizzel here
SpiriTNT vs fire
Staves+deflag vs gravity (lt for d2d needed)
PUgons+carapace vs light
Grabbow or wizzel vs darkness
Psions vs entropy

What do you think?

I like where rem is thinking with these ideas.

I would go dark domin for aether and go wizzel for darkness.

so based off of rem's ideas. a few deck visuals would probably be something like this (i'm guessing):

Spoiler for my deck guess:

I tried to test a few of these, their all ok vs some of last round decks. but my main worry was more on the card numbers in relation to our vault and Salvage/Discard

Spoiler for Stave Deflag:

Lt. D2D vs.

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Sldr. sky vs.

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Gen. Marsu vs.

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Sldr. rem vs.

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to make this happen we would need to salvage or transmute at least a few cards. scorps and maybe a pillar

Spoiler for Salvage:

• 3 NM, 1 vamp stiletto, transmute 1 forest scorp
• 2 EQ, transmute 2 F. scorps
• 1 FW, 1 arsenic, transmute 2 F. scorps

Spoiler for ?Discard?:

still not really sure about this.

Gotta get some sleep, but I'll try to be back in a few hours so i can be here before deadline, but no garuntees. I hope marsu or rem are on before deadline and can get the last bit of stuff done that is needed. if you don't like these ideas, no worries do whatever will be best for the team!  Good luck!