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wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308521#msg308521
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2011, 10:35:22 pm »
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Been messing around with this deck, I'm like 10-0 against Fractal Devourers / Vampires custom AI3. I took out Bonds because Fractal + Bonds = scary. I'm a bit worried about Pandemonium / Voodoo Doll now, though.

derp ninja'd. Well, uh, anyways. Where does that leave me?
If you want to take this deck, what else would you like to use upgraded (6 or 9 upgrades cards please)?

Also, without bonds you are counting on the hope shield. The adrenaline is to play on a firefly so you can get 4 light in one turn and get the hope shield up quickly.  Another adrenaline might be good - that or another heal.

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308536#msg308536
« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2011, 11:05:13 pm »
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Like this? More cards? Changing stuff?

Can I help any of you?

I will test this deck a little but I suspect that upgrading firebolts is not that effective. The upgrade helps if you need to use them as CC and are facing discord - but for a OTK it doesnt matter if it cost 2 or 1 to play. Maybe upgrading the shield or the fahrenheits?
Wow Im dumb unupped bolts are 3 not 2... But still after some testing - there is an incredible excess of  :life. With that in mind, upgrading the 2 shields is totally worth it. They will block more damage upped. I recommend 4 upped firebolts, 2 unupped bolts and 2 upgraded shields like the below.

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Still an excess of life quanta..... But thats okay I think this deck works pretty well and can kick butt against any stall deck.


wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308539#msg308539
« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2011, 11:27:14 pm »
My suggestion to play against :aether.

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Of these cards I have the following upgraded: 3x phase shield, 2x fractal
I could upgrade another 2 cards if needed.

this deck works pretty damn well. it comes down to meta game and what the opponent has but the deck even beat a phase shield stall thanks to the bonds.

here is the version I used:

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wavedash

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308540#msg308540
« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2011, 11:36:46 pm »
I DON'T EVEN MY DECK

Ugh. Maybe I could just go mono-Life rush and hope they over-prepare for anti-Devourers.

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308542#msg308542
« Reply #76 on: April 08, 2011, 11:45:05 pm »
do your rustler deck idea.

we have mirror shields which can't be stolen, plenty of heals in the vault and miracles to boot.

edunavas

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308565#msg308565
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2011, 01:13:40 am »
Hello, everyone.

I liked all the deck ideas of promwar, and falcon idea with the uppgrades.

About the hope deck I think we have to upgrade the air cards to cost less (not the FFQ) and hope shield.

I think we should discard/convert the Time cards, they won´t make a good deck....
Well what about kitty deck?

 

wavedash

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308579#msg308579
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2011, 01:56:22 am »
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Struggles against Death and Entropy duos a little, wrecks upgraded Accel Voodoo, should be fine.

Not entirely sure if I should unupgrade the Frogs or replace with Cocks.

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308581#msg308581
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2011, 02:08:43 am »
Its up to you on the cocks. That deck will require us to discard 3 from our vault - totally worth it in my opinion.


Here is an idea for PlayerOa vs Zeru:
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This solves our lack of pendulums and is good vs discord. It can beat blackhole discord too (if played correctly - ie hold back on the nova until you are using them to play an explosion or fog shield). It CANNOT beat discord/earthquake. It gets pwned by earthquakes because dragons are expensive.

That deck is a little variable - you could add a staff, heal or arsenic for example.


Another idea is the graboidbow - I will test now.


My last idea is dragon/sky blitz/wings. we have 4 pendulums to spare at the moment - we could use those to power the wings/skyblitz and the rest would be life pillars for the dragons. I will make and test.



Looking for feedback team!

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308582#msg308582
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2011, 02:10:52 am »
wavedash - sorry I made a mistake. I meant to say that we have 2 solar shields - we don't have any mirror shields. Damn sorry about that man.


Can you adjust the deck?

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308583#msg308583
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2011, 02:34:38 am »
Hey, I was thinking.... We have 2 protect artifacts - maybe you should make an earthquake / protected thorn carapace deck?

wavedash

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308589#msg308589
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2011, 03:01:56 am »
Do you think that deck would be more successful than the Rustler rush?

wizelsnarf

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Re: Round 1 - Strategies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24018.msg308592#msg308592
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2011, 03:08:33 am »
not necessarily - there is no way to predict what darkness will bring against us, especially in the first round.

I was just offering an alternative to the deck you made since I mistakenly claimed there was a mirror shield. PA could be useful vs steals - that is all. Earthquake will hurt them if they have a pendulum based deck though. If they have a mono with devourers - it won't do anything.

So it is left to "predictions" - but we can't predict anything. I say take what you want and you are confident you can play well.

 

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