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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491304#msg491304
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 03:32:33 pm »
for the support teams i say we have both defend. what decks would they use though ?

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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491309#msg491309
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 03:39:58 pm »
for the support teams i say we have both defend. what decks would they use though ?
I believe that we'll know our support team match-ups after this round ends, so decks will need to be decided then.

Also, it says in the rules that decks don't need to be submitted, they just need to remain the same each match.  Therefore there's no rush to getting these decided yet.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491384#msg491384
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 05:26:11 pm »
Propaganda Polls have ended; unfortunately we didn't win either one of them and don't get a bonus.

I had very high hopes for the Speech Poll in particular, but sadly this is the general nature of community voting.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491486#msg491486
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 07:57:22 pm »
We needed the epicness of pepo, vrt and glitch :/

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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491490#msg491490
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 08:02:32 pm »
We needed the epicness of pepo, vrt and glitch :/
I might agree with the banner (Fire's was pretty lame though), but with the speech I've seen hardly any non-Fire Team member say that they preferred Fire's speech over everyone else's.  There's a lot of speculation that questionable advertising was used by Fire, but it's best to let that pass for now; there's nothing we can do about it at this point.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491491#msg491491
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 08:03:20 pm »
lol team fire was harrasing me to vote :P Kinda funny, since im on team life

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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg491500#msg491500
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 08:13:23 pm »
fighting pineapple now, will edit with results.

First two games, a luck draw won him... 3rd game, i couldnt play a single card... the entire game.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39239.msg492175#msg492175
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 05:51:50 pm »
Hello team Life! I'm happy to join you in your effort to prove Life's superiority!

*Cough* Awkward intro out of the way, I'll take this chance to post the thing I was working on before I found out I had been drafted to team Life: Support team deckbuilding.

I took the liberty of compiling the list of cards team Life used in Round 1:

Spoiler for Round 1 Cards:
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4vj 590 5bt 5bu 5c2 5c4 5c5 5c6 5c7 5c9 5f4 5fb 5og 5oi 5ol 5on 5oo 5ul 5um 5up 61q 61r 61t 622 624 8pq


Rather than insulting your intelligence, I'll assume you're all familiar with the Support team deckbuilding rules.

Note that this list is subject to human error.


I also took the liberty of compiling the list of cards our opponent, Entropy, used during Round 1:

Spoiler for Entropy Cards:
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4vd 4ve 4vf 4vg 4vh 4vj 4vl 4vn 4vp 52o 52q 52r 55v 590 5c1 5f6 5fb 5ia 5og 5oo 5rp 61q 8pj


Note that this list is subject to human error.

Using the deckbuilding rules, and the list of cards above, we can remove quite a few strategies that Entropy can't use.

Spoiler for Thought Process; read at your own risk:
Discord is rare. No D/BH.

Maxwell's Demon won't be used. Using high attack/low HP creatures is relatively safe.

Entropy dragon, Abomination, Lycanthrope won't be seeing any action, so mono Entropy rush is basically out of the question.

Pandemonium is banned, as well, making RoF the only usable mass CC.

No Nova means no Novabows.

Arsenic is rare. Poison, Bonewall banned means no poison stalls, unless he tries a trio.

Dissipation Shield isn't really much, Life doesn't usually have a problem fielding enough damage to break it fairly quickly.

Blackhole: Useless without Discord.

Graboid, Forest Spirit, Fog Shield. Without Nova, these probably wouldn't have been used anyway.

Antimatter and Lightning: Yes! Those were 2 of the most annoying cards I was worried about when thinking of a deck to make. Without these, CC is less of a problem.

Wings... Another nice card banned. This removes one of the two most irritating anti-Life shields.

Rage Potion, Deflagration, Sundial: No comments really.


I, personally, am expecting to see either some type of stall with Dimensional Shield, or some type of CC heavy deck.

For CC, Entropy has access to Shockwave, Freeze, Basilisk Blood, Otyugh, Gravity Pull, Fire bolt, Ice Lance, Reverse Time, and any others I forgot. Of these, I expect Shockwave, Otyugh, or Fire Bolt to be both the most dangerous, and the most likely to be used.

I have a few deck ideas, but I'll play around with them for a few hours before I share them here.

Spoiler for Earth/Life:
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593 593 593 593 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 8pm

Unless I'm confused, having 2 defenders means the defender is allowed to use (up to) 6 copies of 2 different cards that team Life used during Round 1, making this legal.

Spoiler for Death/Life:
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 8pk

Spoiler for Blitzing Spirits:
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5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c1 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5od 5oo 5oo 5oo 5op 5op 8pp

This doesn't really counter Dimensional Shield, unless the other player is careless and lets Skyblitz surprise him for the kill. I had originally designed it for a Tournament, but I found the Wings really helped buy it extra time to build up the spirits.
I'm just throwing ideas around. I'm afraid of trying too hard to counter one type of deck, then having Entropy play a totally different deck and in turn counter our deck. Any other ideas?

Edit: Didn't think about it before. I'll go ahead and send Kai the list of cards both us and Entropy used during Round 1, and maybe he can use the information to his advantage.

 

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