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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75351#msg75351
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2010, 08:00:00 pm »
Looks somewhat fragile, there's only 1 bond, so heals are the only things you can depend upon. Might be good though, given the stalling of time, the spirits can grow into some giants.

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75391#msg75391
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2010, 09:09:09 pm »
I've been experimenting with entropy/life decks and i just cant seem to find a good fit...i feel like entropy would be good because butterfly-effect means perm control and an early discord is gonna screw with any mono/duo deck (which i'm sure we'll see a lot of)...i feel like life/entropy should pair somehow as fallen elves need life quanta but i just cant seem to make a workable deck... any suggestions?

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75465#msg75465
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2010, 10:43:35 pm »
I made a few modifications and this is what I have right now
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it does good when the combo gets up but I never seem to draw the right pillars

btw when does the first macthes start?

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75551#msg75551
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2010, 12:45:02 am »
Yeah, that looks better. :D

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75576#msg75576
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2010, 01:27:36 am »
I made a few modifications and this is what I have right now
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c1 5c1 5c1 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c3 5c3 5c6 5c6 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rl 5rl 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rs
Now, I'm not saying the deck sucks, but I can tell you right now why the deck isn't winning.

With only three creatures, you can't ever draw anything to hit with.  And you need early spirits to grow.  Take spirits instead of heals.  You're drawing like pewp but there's no point.  What are you going to draw?  More pillars?  Heal?!  And what were you planning on doing with that scarab?  With only six turns of delays, and a whopping total of 8 healing per turn possible, you aren't EVER going to need to worry about decking out, especially if you're using growth properly.

In a great deck, ever card helps every other card.  How was heal helping sundial?  How was Pharaoh helping your carapaces?

Since we have a card limited vault, I don't think these are the kind of cards we want to open with.  If we take down time, we should salvage sundials, no questions asked.  But I don't get why you didn't nova into the sundials, so you'd be able to draw and grow your spirits more.  And if you're going for a delay+grow, why not take aether? 

I imagine this deck is good when it gets going.  The spirits can grow forever, and that probably looks fun.  And I like the concept of splashing for time to get some sundials as delays, it would probably help your spirits grow.  Maybe I have a weird playstyle, but I would design the deck like this:
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or this:

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or if you want to deck them out, use this FFQ

...maybe I'm just and idiot.....

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75582#msg75582
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2010, 01:38:41 am »
You have a fine point, but for the water/spirit growth deck, squid will most likely prove better stall than sundials.

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75583#msg75583
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2010, 01:40:27 am »
Agreed.  Which brings me to my next point.

How many squids does everyone have?

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75588#msg75588
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2010, 01:44:47 am »
I used to have 14, I sold 8 of them so I have 6 now.

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75632#msg75632
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2010, 02:58:30 am »
Agreed.  Which brings me to my next point.

How many squids does everyone have?
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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75643#msg75643
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2010, 03:17:03 am »
1 squid

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg75990#msg75990
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2010, 04:47:25 pm »
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The decks I tried didn't work well so I guess I'll go with this one, btw the thorn carapace seems out of place some how

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Re: First Round Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6876.msg76046#msg76046
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2010, 06:11:54 pm »
I concur.  Emphatic bonds are way better in that situation.  Also, you have three more darkness pillars than needed.  Take more nightfall, and use steals to grab your shields.

 

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