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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg302249#msg302249
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2011, 01:00:25 pm »
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This went 4-1 against AI3.
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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg302260#msg302260
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 01:15:23 pm »
You are right.
But it is also good to have duo decks - some can be counters, too ;)
I know, almost all of our decks will be duos and a rainbow.
I just want to tell that we have to concentrate creating counters and not only duos decks with every element. As example, I won´t  use vault space with hermatite golens if in our element there are similar creatures.

The people here are saying that we have to create a water/life deck....if there is no good deck counter we don´t need to make one, we don´t need to make every element decks.

The gravity deck is nice. We for sure will take some momentum, acceleration and armagio cards. I won´t discuss if it´s the best deck, but these cards have to be in the vault

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg302262#msg302262
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2011, 01:22:43 pm »
great idea PlayerOa!

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg302273#msg302273
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 01:40:32 pm »
You are right.
But it is also good to have duo decks - some can be counters, too ;)
I know, almost all of our decks will be duos and a rainbow.
I just want to tell that we have to concentrate creating counters and not only duos decks with every element. As example, I won´t  use vault space with hermatite golens if in our element there are similar creatures.

The people here are saying that we have to create a water/life deck....if there is no good deck counter we don´t need to make one, we don´t need to make every element decks.

The gravity deck is nice. We for sure will take some momentum, acceleration and armagio cards. I won´t discuss if it´s the best deck, but these cards have to be in the vault
I know what you mean. As the strategist I will start a topic with elemental strengthes/weaknesses very soon.

great idea PlayerOa!
Thanks :)
It needs tweaking, but you can see the basic idea.
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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg302336#msg302336
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2011, 03:28:45 pm »
Wize, I think we have to take care about the amount of cards.
For example Hope. How many Hopes we have to have on a deck to make it work? About 4? Ok, Let´s puts only 4 on the vault, don´t need to put 8....probably we won´t use two deck ideas on the same round. Or put 6 cards, if to make a good deck we use 4, what we do with the other 2?
I think it´ time to make the vault more seriously.

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303204#msg303204
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2011, 05:21:25 pm »
PlayerOa, I went 8-6 against AI3 with your Momentum/armagio/dragons.  Don't know if I was playing it wrong or if I was unlucky, or what...

On that note, I went 10-2 with this:
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It's a very linear strategy, and doesn't have any CC or PC... but it's explosive.  You basically get to play a dragon every time your rustler lives until turn 3, and just have tons of quanta to use mitosis and play more dragons.  It's a bit weak to Phase shield and Maxwell's demon in testing, though.

I'd probably cut 1 mitosis from this list, and would like to decrease the reliance on Rustlers somehow.  Any suggestions?

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303206#msg303206
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2011, 05:25:38 pm »
PlayerOa, I went 8-6 against AI3 with your Momentum/armagio/dragons.  Don't know if I was playing it wrong or if I was unlucky, or what...

On that note, I went 10-2 with this:
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It's a very linear strategy, and doesn't have any CC or PC... but it's explosive.  You basically get to play a dragon every time your rustler lives until turn 3, and just have tons of quanta to use mitosis and play more dragons.  It's a bit weak to Phase shield and Maxwell's demon in testing, though.

I'd probably cut 1 mitosis from this list, and would like to decrease the reliance on Rustlers somehow.  Any suggestions?
Nice deck, but it lacks healing and/or defense. Maybe fit in 2 Miracles? 32-card decks can work as not decking out, too.
War #3 - Life || War #4 - Death || War #5, #6, #7, #9, #13, #14 - Time || War #8, #12 - Air

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303210#msg303210
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2011, 05:42:10 pm »
Would Miracles or Sanctuary be better?  Most of the time, I'm pumping all my Light quanta into Life just in case I lose my rustler.  Also, Sanctuary is really good (obviously) against Discords.

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303213#msg303213
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2011, 05:55:01 pm »
Keep in mind that AI3 isn't exactly ideal for testing. Accelerated Momentum Armagios won't work as well against a Chrysoara rush as it will against, say, stereotypical mono-Aether. It'd be a good idea to keep it around. Rustler Mitosis rush is really weak to CC, the best idea I can think of to remedy that is to Bless the Rustlers to they can maybe take a hit. Or play a shitton of them at once, I dunno.

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303228#msg303228
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2011, 06:22:11 pm »
Yeah, but I've found that running out 2 of them on the first turn you can (which happens fairly often) will play around most single-target CC.  It's not like we're likely to see thunderstorms unless they're expecting the rustler rush.  Bless might be a good idea, in testing Miracle just costs too much to cast, and I still lost the one game I did cast it.

Currently 25-6 with the deck against AI3.

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg303344#msg303344
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2011, 08:11:57 pm »
stop testing AI3!!!! I can't say this enough.

Test against specific decks from the link on the first post of this thread!!!!! There are plenty of war#2 decks that beat life. We want to test against those and only those for now.


Also, +2 or +3 sanctuary would be excellent. That would help with deck out and give you +12 healing per turn which is pretty helpful. Sanctuary is also cheaper so you could probably afford it if it turns out you had to (ie entropy mark worries you about discord).

Nice mono deck idea.

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Re: Deck Ideas for Vault - Brainstorm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23519.msg304841#msg304841
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2011, 08:24:36 pm »
I tried to make a rewind deck, but without success.

 

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