*Author

Offline justaburd

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 638
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • justaburd is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.justaburd is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • Chirp!
  • Awards: Gold DonorSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake7th Trials - Master of AirSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1023693#msg1023693
« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2012, 10:21:01 pm »
I think SoG stands in a position where a quanta based change would not work.
If you reduce it to 1, it starts conflicting with sanc and if it stays at 2, it's too little healing for the cost.
I'd say increase the healing to 4, 6 or 7 when upped.
Chirp? *looks around*

Offline plastiqe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1749
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • plastiqe hides under a Cloak.
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1023696#msg1023696
« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2012, 10:23:27 pm »
I like elemental affinity because it makes for more interesting deckbuilding limitations.  On the one hand you could have boring cards that just do the same thing all the time, or you can have a convertable card where you have to make a strategic choice on which mark to use.

I would only change it so that the elemental affinity bonus is closer to the standard use of the card.  In SoG's example I'd like to see it at 4 Hp/turn or 5Hp/turn with life mark.

It should be good enough to play without the bonus, but really shine when you incorporate the correct mark.

Offline Helston

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 766
  • Country: au
  • Reputation Power: 14
  • Helston is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.Helston is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • Usually reliably unreliable. Sometimes.
  • Awards: Silver DonorMaster of Elemental Locks (False Elements 2)Slice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1023933#msg1023933
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2012, 11:13:52 am »
I'm not a fan of the elemental affinity. It was designed to weaken its uses in standard rainbows while keeping it stronger in life-based decks (or life-based rainbows). As this is no longer the case, no elemental affinity is really needed.

Secondly, mark-based affinity is really quite a strange way to go about it. It means you could never gain the full 5 HP while getting the most out of Shard of Void, Shard of Divinity or Shard of Bravery, but you CAN with any of the other shards.

Finally, this punishes duos or trios which have arbitrarily been designed to have a certain pendulum/pillar split. This then bleeds into events, and in particular War, where any non-Life element has a much easier time gaining the full 5 HP bonus, but Life itself can't pull the same trick without running a mono (or close enough).

5 HP per turn would indeed be very good, and probably put Life's healing to just below where Light was prior to this change (SoD's change being a large boost to Light's healing too). For an element which supposedly focuses on healing, there isn't usually enough of it at hand due to how specific Empathic Bonds' healing is. And rather than outshining Empathic Bonds, this should complement it by helping stabilise decks until they can fall back on the crazy high healing that only Empathic can provide.
[15:02:07] Jocko [ยป] Helston: You killed a bunch of bunnies with nuclear weapons

Offline Cunning_Wish

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 109
  • Country: cn
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Cunning_Wish hides under a Cloak.
  • Times of Rank 1 in Platinum Arena:5
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1023942#msg1023942
« Reply #111 on: December 20, 2012, 01:59:21 pm »
deck without  :life mark, sog is weak to use
but for mono life, it needn't sog

upped heal is more better whether it is a life deck, or a rainbow deck

sog should be buffed,at least heal 4 per turn. you can just image it to a small Sanctuary .
【Burning Miracle】a deck out deck,only for pvp
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39812.0.html

Offline qetuol

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Reputation Power: 1
  • qetuol is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1024730#msg1024730
« Reply #112 on: December 22, 2012, 04:06:45 pm »
nononono... shards should remain colorless. otherwise the non-elemental specific ability looses its meaning.

Offline Luminous

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 459
  • Reputation Power: 7
  • Luminous is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • there is none.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1024733#msg1024733
« Reply #113 on: December 22, 2012, 04:10:25 pm »
nononono... shards should remain colorless. otherwise the non-elemental specific ability looses its meaning.

No, it doesn't. They just been shaked a little, small meta-changing. Not that big deal as I thought before.
War 6 ~ :fire
War 9 ~ :time

Offline Vangelios

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2931
  • Country: br
  • Reputation Power: 36
  • Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • War Hardcore Player
  • Awards: War #11 Winner - Team LifeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 3/2015 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 1/2015 3rd PlaceForum Brawl #4 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner8th Trials - Master of FireBattle League 3/2013 WinnerBattle League 2/2013 Second PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 1/2013 3rd PlaceBattle League 3/2012 Winner
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1024897#msg1024897
« Reply #114 on: December 23, 2012, 04:12:27 am »
Believe me, this shard is still very good, with life-rainbow, firestall, and monolife of course, and I think this is wonderfully harmonic, I really liked these changes.
Brawl - 4 :fire Red Stars
The luck is much Greater, when there effort and patience.

Offline Luminous

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 459
  • Reputation Power: 7
  • Luminous is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • there is none.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1024932#msg1024932
« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2012, 08:16:11 am »
Believe me, this shard is still very good, with life-rainbow, firestall, and monolife of course, and I think this is wonderfully harmonic, I really liked these changes.
^
War 6 ~ :fire
War 9 ~ :time

Offline Vangelios

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2931
  • Country: br
  • Reputation Power: 36
  • Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Vangelios is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • War Hardcore Player
  • Awards: War #11 Winner - Team LifeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 3/2015 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 1/2015 3rd PlaceForum Brawl #4 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner8th Trials - Master of FireBattle League 3/2013 WinnerBattle League 2/2013 Second PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League 1/2013 3rd PlaceBattle League 3/2012 Winner
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1025566#msg1025566
« Reply #116 on: December 25, 2012, 05:04:02 pm »
 Look for this with this deck-out I won many duels in BL
Now with the changes is to remove carapace and put reflective shield (and bye firestall), also think about removing druidc and put stiletto.

Spoiler for Hidden:
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4t7 4t7 4t7 4t7 4t7 4t7 5c3 5c3 5c3 5c5 5ia 5ia 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 8pn
Brawl - 4 :fire Red Stars
The luck is much Greater, when there effort and patience.

Offline UndeadSpider1990

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 891
  • Country: gb
  • Reputation Power: 13
  • UndeadSpider1990 is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.UndeadSpider1990 is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • Hey you! Join a PvP event!
Re: Shard of Gratitude | Shard of Gratitude https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg1080568#msg1080568
« Reply #117 on: June 16, 2013, 01:04:43 pm »
I support what a lot of people are saying about buffing the effect when there's no Life Mark. I do think 5 should remain the highest though. Which I suppose means I'm suggesting, buff it to 4 / 5 with mark!
Like reading? Here's a story inspired by Elements, City of Alchemy. :)

 

anything
blarg: