*Author

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255452#msg255452
« Reply #240 on: January 23, 2011, 08:10:31 pm »
Yeah, I liked the old cost, but +1 :life is workable in a rainbow, but already makes it hard for duos and trios.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Offline ddevans96

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8307
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 113
  • ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • now palafrost online
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSilver Donor9th Trials - Master of WaterSlice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake8th Trials - Master of WaterSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of the Harry Potter PvP House CupSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255459#msg255459
« Reply #241 on: January 23, 2011, 08:21:25 pm »
Pretty good actually, given that most aether creatures are. Happened to me in trainer.


Well, not frequently enough to make it OP, but it is still something to consider.
Immortal is not available through Mutation, and I'm fairly certain Phase Dragon isn't either.

EDIT: Actually I think Phase Dragon is, but Immortal definitely isn't.
discord / twitter: palafrost - 2x master of water - false god enthusiast
twitch: palafrost - speedrunner, ex-celeste, currently hades
avatar: makoto [persona 5] by asukabaka

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255460#msg255460
« Reply #242 on: January 23, 2011, 08:25:01 pm »
I am pretty sure only Devonian dragon can't be a mutation endpoint. Otherwise, what happened in trainer was a glitch. Are you telling me I missed a change to get a screenshot of a glitch? Dang.


Also, why was it decided that creatures couldn't mutate into an immortal? Was it that it would be thematically wrong to get a killable immortal?
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255465#msg255465
« Reply #243 on: January 23, 2011, 08:35:19 pm »
life/death combo
mitosis, druids, arsenics, animate weapons, retroviruses, and maybe a couple of green nymphs if you have them

so...
mark of death
6 mitosis
3 druids
3 arsenics
4 animate weapons
4 retroviruses
10 life pends

(not sure if it's works, but if u would like to test it, it would be great

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255466#msg255466
« Reply #244 on: January 23, 2011, 08:36:33 pm »
I don't understand your deck, TII.  What's the point now?
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Offline ddevans96

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8307
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 113
  • ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ddevans96 is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • now palafrost online
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSilver Donor9th Trials - Master of WaterSlice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake8th Trials - Master of WaterSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of the Harry Potter PvP House CupSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255467#msg255467
« Reply #245 on: January 23, 2011, 08:37:07 pm »
life/death combo
mitosis, druids, arsenics, animate weapons, retroviruses, and maybe a couple of green nymphs if you have them

so...
mark of death
6 mitosis
3 druids
3 arsenics
4 animate weapons
4 retroviruses
10 life pends

(not sure if it's works, but if u would like to test it, it would be great
Wouldn't work. No way to play the druids.
discord / twitter: palafrost - 2x master of water - false god enthusiast
twitch: palafrost - speedrunner, ex-celeste, currently hades
avatar: makoto [persona 5] by asukabaka

Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255473#msg255473
« Reply #246 on: January 23, 2011, 08:40:41 pm »
by druids, I mean jade staffs... i am used to calling them druids

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255484#msg255484
« Reply #247 on: January 23, 2011, 08:52:57 pm »
You missed the part where Zanz said that Mitosis didn't target weapons anymore, didn't you?
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255485#msg255485
« Reply #248 on: January 23, 2011, 08:54:44 pm »
You missed the part where Zanz said that Mitosis didn't target weapons anymore, didn't you?
read earlier posts...
got the memo of the nerf (thank god for the weapon nerf, hate the cost increase)
that deck wouldn't work then...

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255487#msg255487
« Reply #249 on: January 23, 2011, 08:57:35 pm »
You missed the part where Zanz said that Mitosis didn't target weapons anymore, didn't you?
(thank god for the weapon nerf, hate the cost increase)

agreed.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Offline Newbiecake

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1126
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 15
  • Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Pursuing.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerFG Deck-Designer - Adaptation
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255534#msg255534
« Reply #250 on: January 23, 2011, 09:43:50 pm »
New version: Cost increased to 6/5upped. Can not target weapons anymore.
Discuss.
That's just utterly overkill.  The original cost was perfect; as-is, it's almost entirely restricted to mono-life. 

Not targeting weapons is just fine, but the cost increase was not requested by the community, not necessary, and certainly unwelcome, at least on my part.  Compared to the other cards that allow you to create new cards every turn -- Mindgate and Hourglass -- Mitosis is now more expensive to cast, usually more expensive to activate, and more vulnerable.  Not good.
Yeah. That 1 :life makes a big difference. But consider this: from what I know, RainbOw, Elidnis, Ferox, Miracle, Fire Queen, and some other FGs also have Mitosis. Although they don't have SoR, but they have amazing quanta generation. That increase in Mitosis cost helps with FGs.
Tasted the world, seen more than enough.

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255559#msg255559
« Reply #251 on: January 23, 2011, 10:03:11 pm »
First off, at the moment, it's a 2 :life increase, not just 1.  Also, the FGs don't actually have the card -- the Trainer is set up to add 'in development' cards to every AI deck you play against, in order to find any AI problems with them. I doubt that any besides Ferox will actually have Mitosis in the life game -- and that's iffy.


I have to say, I've been playtesting the new version, and it's gone from edgy and cool (Fractal-like) to an interesting toy that -- outside of monolife rush -- you really have to work to build a deck around (Luciferase-like.)   
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

 

anything
blarg: