*Author

Offline Newbiecake

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1126
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 15
  • Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.Newbiecake is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Pursuing.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerFG Deck-Designer - Adaptation
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg254784#msg254784
« Reply #228 on: January 23, 2011, 01:55:47 am »
Idk if it's been mentioned(can't read through 20 pgs :P) but I think in some games when I use mitosis(card), I can use the effect the exact same turn...while in some games I can't

Animate weapon and mitosis is pretty good. Vamp dagger is cheap :)
If your creature has been on the field for more than 1 turn and then you play Mitosis on the creature, you will be able to use the ability immediately that turn if you have enough quanta.  It's only when Mitosis is applied to a creature the turn it is played on the field that you cannot use it that turn.
Ah is it now? I'll be sure to note that, thanks. :)
Tasted the world, seen more than enough.

Offline Vineroz

  • Chat Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1648
  • Country: hk
  • Reputation Power: 26
  • Vineroz is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Vineroz is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Vineroz is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Vineroz is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Vineroz is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Awards: Deckbuilding Competition - Simulated ViolenceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg254828#msg254828
« Reply #229 on: January 23, 2011, 03:00:41 am »
Idk if it's been mentioned(can't read through 20 pgs :P) but I think in some games when I use mitosis(card), I can use the effect the exact same turn...while in some games I can't

Animate weapon and mitosis is pretty good. Vamp dagger is cheap :)
If your creature has been on the field for more than 1 turn and then you play Mitosis on the creature, you will be able to use the ability immediately that turn if you have enough quanta.  It's only when Mitosis is applied to a creature the turn it is played on the field that you cannot use it that turn.
Ah is it now? I'll be sure to note that, thanks. :)
the same works for butterfly effect and mutants as well, for your reference
TIME is around us. It flows silently, trying to take everything away from us.
PvP Tournament Organizer (2012 Sep - 2013 Oct, 2016 Nov - 2017 Aug) | Chat Mod (2016 Nov - )  :time

freezekougra

  • Guest
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg254950#msg254950
« Reply #230 on: January 23, 2011, 05:33:58 am »
Just made a quick upped mono-life deck on trainer....12 pillars, 6 froggies, 6 mitosis, 6 feral bonds.

Win:
divine glory 10 turns
chaoslord 10 turns
morte 8 turn
paradox 17 turns
dream catcher 10 turns (won even with antimater, destroy, and early discord)

Lose:
neptune(gave up, shockwave CC, artic octopus congeal)
elidnis lost(loboed)
octane(quit, firebuckler)
seism (quicksanded pillars, diamond shield annoying)
destiny (rewind, maxwells demon)
fire queen(quit, eagle eye sniper)
miracle (too many miracles..hit me for 100hp in one turn)
scorpio
decay (too many pests. got him down to 80hp with 5 frogs, but used siphon life on 4 of them)
incarnate(retrovirus, bloodsucker)
hermes(firestorm)
gemini (didn't test, but should be obvious skip because of chain phase shields)

Both:
oblierator lose (lost with 20hp left)
obliberator win (8 turns)
rainbow lose(congeal, thunder, eagleeye sniper, steal ferals)
rainbow win(11 turns)
ferox lose
ferox win (9 turns)
dark matter lose (quit, oty)
dark matter win (9 turns)


I haven't tested them extensively yet but so far there's potential to win 9 FGs. Consider how quickly an idiot like me made the deck, there's a lot of room for improvement and stats aren't that bad. Also, you could follow the Rol/Hope thing where you quit gods you know you can't win. You can alternate between this and a AI3 monolife deck for score if you don't want to pay for two fully upped decks.

Offline zanzarino

  • Lead Developer
  • ****************
  • Posts: 420
  • Reputation Power: 496
  • zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.zanzarino is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255421#msg255421
« Reply #231 on: January 23, 2011, 07:52:04 pm »
New version: Cost increased to 6/5upped. Can not target weapons anymore.
Discuss.

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255425#msg255425
« Reply #232 on: January 23, 2011, 07:53:25 pm »
Slightly OP if mutation gets you a creature that is normally immaterial, but currently isn't.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Offline GG

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2253
  • Reputation Power: 28
  • GG is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.GG is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.GG is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.GG is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.GG is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Retired from everything...
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake3rd Trials - Master of Gravity2nd Trials - Master of GravityC-C-C-Combo Maker Winner!Weekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 1/2011 WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 3/2010 2nd PlaceNew Passive Ability Competition Winner
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255426#msg255426
« Reply #233 on: January 23, 2011, 07:55:07 pm »
Slightly OP if mutation gets you a creature that is normally immaterial, but currently isn't.
What are the chances of that?
Ex-Master of :gravity, still a fervid supporter! GO GRAVY!

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255429#msg255429
« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2011, 07:56:40 pm »
Pretty good actually, given that most aether creatures are. Happened to me in trainer.


Well, not frequently enough to make it OP, but it is still something to consider.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Offline Higurashi

  • Administrator
  • ********
  • Posts: 7835
  • Country: no
  • Reputation Power: 103
  • Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Higurashi is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Æther in Æternum enim Æquilibrio
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeWinner of Team PvP #6Slice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerFalse Gods Competition: Reloaded - WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake4th Trials - Master of Aether3rd Trials - Master of AetherWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255432#msg255432
« Reply #235 on: January 23, 2011, 07:58:21 pm »
Most Aether creatures aren't. We have Immortal and Phase Dragon that are, whereas Spark, Phase Spider and Turquoise Nymph aren't.

As for the nerf, I don't feel the cost increase is necessary, but it certainly makes it a more high-risk card, which is probably good for the meta-game. Not targeting flying weapons is exactly what most wanted. I think it's fair and logical.
:aether  http://elementscommunity.org/forum/guilds/991-thunderbolts-ho!-991/ :aether
Aether is the prime Element present in all things, providing space, connection and balance for all Elements to exist.
Aether represents the sense of joy and union, and the ultimate potential of all things.

Offline doublecross

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 750
  • Reputation Power: 9
  • doublecross is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Did you miss me?
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255436#msg255436
« Reply #236 on: January 23, 2011, 08:00:30 pm »
My other worry was using it on ashes which are relatively cheap given that in 1 turn they can become a 7 attack pheonix of relative immortality.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. Speak the truth even when your voice falters.

Offline thatnewguy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1187
  • Reputation Power: 15
  • thatnewguy is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.thatnewguy is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.thatnewguy is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Lost in time...
  • Awards: FG Deck-Designer - Forbidden Romance
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255439#msg255439
« Reply #237 on: January 23, 2011, 08:03:33 pm »
My other worry was using it on ashes which are relatively cheap given that in 1 turn they can become a 7 attack pheonix of relative immortality.
Your still going to need 8 fire for that 1 phoenix (mitosis ash[7] + rebirth[1])
Whenever you feel alone and nobody is there, you can't feel more alive.

Dieing is easy, living is hard.

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255440#msg255440
« Reply #238 on: January 23, 2011, 08:04:02 pm »
New version: Cost increased to 6/5upped. Can not target weapons anymore.
Discuss.
That's just utterly overkill.  The original cost was perfect; as-is, it's almost entirely restricted to mono-life. 

Not targeting weapons is just fine, but the cost increase was not requested by the community, not necessary, and certainly unwelcome, at least on my part.  Compared to the other cards that allow you to create new cards every turn -- Mindgate and Hourglass -- Mitosis is now more expensive to cast, usually more expensive to activate, and more vulnerable.  Not good.
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Offline Shantu

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1456
  • Country: hu
  • Reputation Power: 21
  • Shantu is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Shantu is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Shantu is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Shantu is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • In high orbit
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeMaster Duelist - Winner of the Duels of Honor PvP Event6th Trials - Master of DeathThe 1st Avatar - Winner of the PvP EventWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeWinner of the Harry Potter PvP House Cup1st Champion of The ColosseumWeekly Tournament WinnerParolee of the 1st Prisoners DilemmaSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg255446#msg255446
« Reply #239 on: January 23, 2011, 08:07:55 pm »
I disagree with such a huge cost increase too - if the cost must be increased, increase it by only 1 :life.

 

anything
blarg: