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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250305#msg250305
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 06:03:11 pm »
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250318#msg250318
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 06:16:07 pm »
I do not think that this will help the fast Life Rushes rush much faster.

Below are my comparisons between Adrenaline and Mitosis
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TurnAdded Damage AdrenalineAdded Damage Mitosis (assuming no summoning sickness and sufficient quanta available)
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So Mitosis based rush (assuming no summoning sickness and sufficient quanta available) will be faster on average than an Adrenaline based rush but not by as much as a turn I would think.
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250331#msg250331
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 06:33:44 pm »
This card is quite the surprise, especially for mono Life.  Daughter Frogs everywhere will be awesome!  :)
wouldn't that go so well with the Frog General card?
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250333#msg250333
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 06:36:20 pm »
if i remember correctly from biology class last year, both meiosis and mitosis take a while to complete the cycle (can't remember the names right now)
so shouldn't the card produce a daughter after, say, 2-3 turns?
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250341#msg250341
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 06:46:12 pm »
n00b question: Whats a daughter creature? (sorry if it is written, but don't get it :P)
A daughter cell is a cell produced from mitosis. So a daughter creature is a creature produced from the card.

if i remember correctly from biology class last year, both meiosis and mitosis take a while to complete the cycle (can't remember the names right now)
so shouldn't the card produce a daughter after, say, 2-3 turns?
Then the card would be useless.

I thought that there was going to be some trouble with SoR...

Or did that somehow get fixed?
I doubt it's much of a problem. Cheap dragons, sure, but they are susceptible to CC. I doubt it's any more powerful than phase shield or immolation.

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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250358#msg250358
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 07:00:02 pm »
I think it'll simply make a new copy of that creature, and not keep buffs, so damage from dolls can't be copied.

Malignant cells would lose their current ability (which makes them create cells on attack) and gain one to actively create them instead.

Chimera: new +|+ card that absorbs any creatures that appeared after this one was summoned.

And with flying weapons it would be cool, so I hope that's simply possible :)

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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250364#msg250364
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 07:05:15 pm »
And with flying weapons it would be cool, so I hope that's simply possible :)
well, since a flying weapon is only technically Animated and not alive, i don't think mitosis should affect them
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250374#msg250374
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2011, 07:17:24 pm »
Those suggestions sound fair TorB,

But again, Malignant cell has 0 cost to "play". (as seen in the link) It would mean even if it lost the ability from being Malignant, it would still act the same way...(you'd have to just click on it instead of wait for it to magically appear the next turn). Is that correct?
Yes, not really worthwhile, especially since the copies would still copy on attack...

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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250384#msg250384
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 07:26:17 pm »
Interesting card. An alternate version of Fractal, I should say.

Now all we need is a creature that has Mitosis as its base skill... :D
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250402#msg250402
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 07:40:36 pm »
Mitosis+Lycans. Win.

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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250422#msg250422
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 07:54:10 pm »
I love the card, and the concept, as well as what it brings to Life. Now all we need is something for Earth ;)
You guys already have that sanctuary card coming up

oh wait; that's gonna be a :light card :P
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Re: Mitosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19732.msg250426#msg250426
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2011, 07:56:21 pm »
I love the card, and the concept, as well as what it brings to Life. Now all we need is something for Earth ;)
perhaps something like Lithogenesis (the making of stones)
for like when rocks are formed by sediment; but this is getting off topic
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