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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg131902#msg131902
« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2010, 06:53:24 pm »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg131905#msg131905
« Reply #109 on: August 05, 2010, 07:05:34 pm »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
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Weird? You know there are Frogs in the world that are poisonious.  ^-^ Froggy

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132043#msg132043
« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2010, 10:41:08 pm »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
 :-X
Weird? You know there are Frogs in the world that are poisonious.  ^-^ Froggy
Did you know there are bugs that shoot boiling hot little chemical fire balls?  Therefore a card for  :life should be added that does direct fire damage, right?  Its only logical, its part of life you see.     :P

Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132113#msg132113
« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2010, 01:18:48 am »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
 :-X
Weird? You know there are Frogs in the world that are poisonious.  ^-^ Froggy
Did you know there are bugs that shoot boiling hot little chemical fire balls?  Therefore a card for  :life should be added that does direct fire damage, right?  Its only logical, its part of life you see.     :P
Yes i did and if the chemicals dont mix right the bug explodes.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132399#msg132399
« Reply #112 on: August 06, 2010, 02:48:33 pm »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
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This card is not fractal friendly.  If you are life and are not playing frogtal if you wish to use fractal, you are doing something wrong.

Even with 2 cost (which scorpion probably needs) frogtal would still be better than scorpial.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132437#msg132437
« Reply #113 on: August 06, 2010, 03:39:47 pm »
it seems a bit weird to me that life element gets a poison card.  somewhat opposite to how i see the element.  other than that it seems like a reasonably powerful card that is fractal friendly.
 :-X
This card is not fractal friendly.  If you are life and are not playing frogtal if you wish to use fractal, you are doing something wrong.

Even with 2 cost (which scorpion probably needs) frogtal would still be better than scorpial.
It may be weird, but there IS a possibilty of doing something wild like not just swapping 6 frogs for 6 scorpions. :)
Say you still want to have basic Frogtal build, you could just swap 2 frogs for 2 scorpios, and fractal what seems best at given situation (frogs for straight rush, scorpios to add poison if you're against decks with say RoFs).
Fractal friendly doesnt mean its the best rush Fractal card from the element, it means its cheap enough to actually spam the card. Something with 3 cost is definitely a candidate for fractal, even for a rainbow deck.
Stall decks in general can make a good use of poison damage.

New card doesnt have to be the best card in elements to be useful. I'm sure Forest Scorpio will find its way into many decks (more so than some other cards "in development").

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132443#msg132443
« Reply #114 on: August 06, 2010, 03:51:43 pm »
New card doesnt have to be the best card in elements to be useful. I'm sure Forest Scorpio will find its way into many decks (more so than some other cards "in development").
Heal, bond, and adrenaline give forest scorpion a big edge over the other scorpions and hence why it will probably always be a bit weaker than the others.  Forest scorpion gives life the 3rd small critter they really needed so that adrenaline isn't 100% necessicary anymore for those people who don't like adrenaline.  Conversely, this may replace Cockatrice in some conventional adrenaline rushes (8 damage and 2 poison counters is  :) ).  The card has lots of potential (it trades the speed and duribility of cockatrice for a different means of dealing damage).

I have several ideas for this card, but most revolve around slower, stalling decks.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132458#msg132458
« Reply #115 on: August 06, 2010, 04:18:37 pm »
Yup, poison cards in general are slower than physical damage dealers, but once poison counter is built, only Purify stops it.

Not to mention, in unupgraded events, where everything is a notch slower, and where SoGs dont exist, this Scorpion will be a really good asset for :life . Poison is much harder to deal with, and its one of the reasons why :death did well in the war.

Adrenalined Puffers/Flying arsenics didnt make a really strong decks before; now :life has in-element creature to use adrenaline on if the user wants to go poison route.
Any duo deck with life now has cheap access to poison. IMO, in duo decks, Scorpions look to me more appealing than new Puffers, even though Puffers are stronger in stats.

Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132460#msg132460
« Reply #116 on: August 06, 2010, 04:20:51 pm »
New card doesnt have to be the best card in elements to be useful. I'm sure Forest Scorpio will find its way into many decks (more so than some other cards "in development").
Heal, bond, and adrenaline give forest scorpion a big edge over the other scorpions and hence why it will probably always be a bit weaker than the others.  Forest scorpion gives life the 3rd small critter they really needed so that adrenaline isn't 100% necessicary anymore for those people who don't like adrenaline.  Conversely, this may replace Cockatrice in some conventional adrenaline rushes (8 damage and 2 poison counters is  :) ).  The card has lots of potential (it trades the speed and duribility of cockatrice for a different means of dealing damage).

I have several ideas for this card, but most revolve around slower, stalling decks.
Life Rush does get fun sometimes. Im using it to fight lvl 3 to raise my score and gain electrum from EM.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg132615#msg132615
« Reply #117 on: August 06, 2010, 08:40:38 pm »
Not really rotface.

This is, by far, the most underpowered of the scorpions.
Underpowered, yes, but only by comparison. Also, by comparison, it's the easiest to use. Even if it is comparatively weak, that vemon can stack up fast if you use it right. Don't underestimate quantity over quality. It has it's uses.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg133044#msg133044
« Reply #118 on: August 07, 2010, 04:56:34 pm »
Not really rotface.

This is, by far, the most underpowered of the scorpions.
That's just sour grapes from a life-fan. It's not as epic as the others are, but it is much easier to use because it comes into play with an attack.

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Re: Forest Scorpion | Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9441.msg133777#msg133777
« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2010, 06:13:14 pm »
Not really rotface.

This is, by far, the most underpowered of the scorpions.
but i'n think this one is most convenient for socrpion   ^-^

 

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