Empathic Bond | Feral Bond

[rowcla]

I haven't used this card, since the SG FG deck days... and I still won't. using it to get an EM seemed the whole point of the thing. now what good is it?

its useful in decks which get loads of creatures out.

i get 20 odd hp per turn with each empathetic bond with my ffq deck all the time

[ratcharmer]

I haven't used this card, since the SG FG deck days... and I still won't. using it to get an EM seemed the whole point of the thing. now what good is it?

its useful in decks which get loads of creatures out.

i get 20 odd hp per turn with each empathetic bond with my ffq deck all the time

Except that you don't get lot's of creatures out until late in the game, and early/mid game is when you need the stalling, so SoG is usually better.

And yeah, this puts me back to the drawing board on my grinding deck . . .

[rowcla]

I haven't used this card, since the SG FG deck days... and I still won't. using it to get an EM seemed the whole point of the thing. now what good is it?

its useful in decks which get loads of creatures out.

i get 20 odd hp per turn with each empathetic bond with my ffq deck all the time

Except that you don't get lot's of creatures out until late in the game, and early/mid game is when you need the stalling, so SoG is usually better.

And yeah, this puts me back to the drawing board on my grinding deck . . .

not for me, ive gotten loads of creatures out fairly quickly

[Kamietsu]

If you use EB's just add an improved heal. Bonds will help keep you alive, along with SoG's if you use them, and then heal on the turn you will kill your opponent for the EM

[grindpower]

Not very useful in Mono Life Rush decks but is good with FFQ Decks.

[ratcharmer]

If you use EB's just add an improved heal. Bonds will help keep you alive, along with SoG's if you use them, and then heal on the turn you will kill your opponent for the EM

I don't think you understand why the change is a problem for many decks.

The basic strategy I had been using was something like this:
-Early stalling with LOTS of SoD's & some bonds
-Build up to the kill (by mutating the tiny critters I summoned to feed the bond, if it matters)
-Miracle on the last turn to EM with 180-220 hp, rake in cash

It wasn't super fast, but with EM's at twice the normal hp it was still a pretty effective grinding deck. What's more, it was the ONLY grinding deck I have ever found that was not another rush deck.

And sadly, some of us find rush decks pretty boring to play.

As to your suggestion, yes it is still technically possible to get EMs with the miracle & heal combo, but it really does not work in this strategy because:
-You can't both stall hard early on and get the EM. If you use heal to stall early then the miracle combo doesn't work.
-It requires 2 "dead cards" in the hand instead of 1
-You need to draw both miracle and heal to get the EM, which makes it much less likely.

[silux]

 
No more masteries, miracle+bond masteries...

Now I gain less than half before!
I don't think miracle+ bond combo is OP, because miracle is quite hard to obtain and usually rainbows can't pay for a miracle before 8 turns.

Gaining less electrum makes the game harder and you have to grind a lot more to get enough money to upgrade a card...

[Seraph]

Quite frankly until life gets 1 or 2 forms of mono creature spam (i.e. ffq or graveyard) this card will never be used all to much.  Bond's biggest issue is it takes a duo to build a deck around and even then the cards needed are slow.  Life's healing in a mono life deck should be better than a SoG if not we need new options or a(nother) bond buff

If mitosis makes it, 
Other wise this card is easier to fit into rainbows, but it is still easily outclassed for SoG 

[xynom]

i havent used this much yet as im still new but its obisously really good with lots of fireflys or scarabs

[rowcla]

i havent used this much yet as im still new but its obisously really good with lots of fireflys or scarabs

well its okay with ffqs, but scarabs would require the extra element so its less effective

[ThugStyle]

Great card , especially when u have more in play !!!Mass healing!!!works great with pharaoh(scarab spamming) !!!