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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg163569#msg163569
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2010, 06:20:17 pm »
I have been using a version of this deck, grinding level 3's.  In the last couple weeks i have got to upgrade 20 of my cards.  This is the best way that i have come across to upgrade my cards.  So i would like to thank jmdt for giving me the deck idea.
Thanks peleon, glad you like it.

Upped frog is always better than unupped frog, even with adrenaline.
- Not 'always'. Unupped frog does more damage with adrenaline than upped frog according to this page (http://elementswiki.co.cc/cards-life/adrenaline-epinephrine/).
While unupped frog does more damage with adrenaline, upped frog will net more damage over time since you will not always have then adrenalined.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg163957#msg163957
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2010, 02:38:11 am »
Upped frog is always better than unupped frog, even with adrenaline.
- Not 'always'. Unupped frog does more damage with adrenaline than upped frog according to this page (http://elementswiki.co.cc/cards-life/adrenaline-epinephrine/).
While unupped frog does more damage with adrenaline, upped frog will net more damage over time since you will not always have then adrenalined.
True.  Play T50, I've hit a lot of upped Life rushes, they are better than non-upped ones.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg164049#msg164049
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2010, 08:40:21 am »
While unupped frog does more damage with adrenaline, upped frog will net more damage over time since you will not always have then adrenalined.
- It seems plausible. By the way, is it better to upgrade frog first for 3/3 -> 5/3 or cockatrice for 4/4 -> 5/5? Creatures dying seems to be rarely an issue and frogs are more often on board because of their cheaper cost.

I just love this deck! It has the most consistent winning rate and straight-forward way to play I've seen, plus it upgrades so well. For this reason it's not just good for score gain, but also electrum.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg168315#msg168315
« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2010, 04:33:03 am »
- It seems plausible. By the way, is it better to upgrade frog first for 3/3 -> 5/3 or cockatrice for 4/4 -> 5/5? Creatures dying seems to be rarely an issue and frogs are more often on board because of their cheaper cost.

I just love this deck! It has the most consistent winning rate and straight-forward way to play I've seen, plus it upgrades so well. For this reason it's not just good for score gain, but also electrum.
Upgrade the frog's first.   It is a very nice jump for a 2 cost creature to 5 dmg.     I did the order as follows

Towers
Frogs
Cockatrice

Some may disagree with Towers first however there is something to be said for getting 2 creatures out first turn.   Without upgrading any creatures that is
6 damage out first turn.   

My current variant runs:

10 Towers
6 Frogs
6 Cockatrices
3 Shards of Gratitude
1 Druid Staff
4 heals

Slows it down just slightly but it up's the EM results when fully upgraded.    My win's slightly increased and about 90% of all win's are EM's now.   Rough numbers of course just from observation.


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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg168351#msg168351
« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2010, 07:22:48 am »
After some revisions, this is what I'm running now.

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I have actually upgraded a couple of cards, but I've left them out since the point was to see how to balance out an unupped version of the deck.  It's slow going, not because the deck is too slow or loses too much, but because I just don't play that much or that fast.  I play maybe a dozen games a day, if that...and there are usually 5 minutes to an hour between games.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg168720#msg168720
« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2010, 10:05:33 pm »
The only problem I've had with this deck is when I defeat the opponent before I can even draw a Heal.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg168782#msg168782
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2010, 12:22:33 am »
Awesome deck, it's always basically autoquit for me in t50 ><
Have you ever tried making an EM deck using Holy flashes?

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg168837#msg168837
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2010, 02:01:45 am »
Awesome deck, it's always basically autoquit for me in t50 ><
Have you ever tried making an EM deck using Holy flashes?
Yeah, doesn't work anywhere near as well.  I tried it with a Shrieker Rush and ended up EMing because the opponent failed to play anything more than using the Holy Flashes.  It can work, just don't expect it to work as efficiently.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg174759#msg174759
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2010, 11:14:02 pm »
I've been using this deck for a day now, it rocks.  I'm currently testing this variant right now:
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Its just the OP deck -1 pendulum +1 epinephrine.  I usually find that I have just a bit too much quanta, but 11 (6+5) towers seems about right.  The epi is 3 quanta for 6 damage, which beats a cockatrice when there isn't a shield out.  I guess its such a small difference that it really wont make any change in the TTW or the EM%, so I might just go back to the original after a bit.

I'm not recording stats, but I've gotten 3000 elec from farming with this so far, am getting EM probly around 75-80% of the time, and only have lost once.  The entropy guy got a second turn discord on me, followed by a purple dragon and shut me down... I nearly beat him though, he had like 12 hp left.

Pro deck, I highly recommend it for anyone reading this thread.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg174811#msg174811
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2010, 01:00:09 am »
I've been using this deck for a day now, it rocks.  I'm currently testing this variant right now:
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Its just the OP deck -1 pendulum +1 epinephrine.  I usually find that I have just a bit too much quanta, but 11 (6+5) towers seems about right.  The epi is 3 quanta for 6 damage, which beats a cockatrice when there isn't a shield out.  I guess its such a small difference that it really wont make any change in the TTW or the EM%, so I might just go back to the original after a bit.

I'm not recording stats, but I've gotten 3000 elec from farming with this so far, am getting EM probly around 75-80% of the time, and only have lost once.  The entropy guy got a second turn discord on me, followed by a purple dragon and shut me down... I nearly beat him though, he had like 12 hp left.

Pro deck, I highly recommend it for anyone reading this thread.
Kuross and I have had several discussions about adding an epi or 2.  Kuross runs 5 heals and an epi.  Epi's are fun, but they also decrease the stability as they add weakness to infection and fire and thorn shield.  I personally like 6 heals and 10 towers so I use the version in the 1st post.  Either way works almost identical.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg174820#msg174820
« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2010, 01:35:11 am »
Yeah, I actually just went back to the original deck, the main reason being you don't have to think to play it.  Using even 1 epi means you need to target a creature, which slows you down, and forces you to pay a bit more attention.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg183032#msg183032
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2010, 07:58:42 pm »
Love this deck. I play it with -1 sword and +1 green nymph and it works like a charm.

 

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