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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152321#msg152321
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2010, 02:06:48 am »
I wonder if it won't be a good idea to 2 or 3 of the heals with Epi, cause Kuross is right, most of the time, you only need 1 or 2 heal to EM.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152327#msg152327
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2010, 02:13:29 am »
I wonder if it won't be a good idea to 2 or 3 of the heals with Epi, cause Kuross is right, most of the time, you only need 1 or 2 heal to EM.
I've tested it both ways.  6 heals gives you the best EM rate.  Also, although epis will give you more speed, the heals make the deck more stable overall and its very difficult to lose when you have 120 extra hp.  Even during bad draws, or where the AI overpowers you, the heals can pull in win wher therer otherwise would not be one.

If you prefer 2-3 epi's, its an easy switch and the deck will still work quite well.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152450#msg152450
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2010, 04:15:24 am »
how well would this work unupped?

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152466#msg152466
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2010, 04:40:17 am »
how well would this work unupped?
I honestly haven't tested it unupped.  I'll take some stats tomorrow and let you know.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152906#msg152906
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2010, 12:59:33 am »
I got an idea, how about 4 un-upped druidic staffs with 4 upped animate weapon and 4 epinephrine, on one turn these would do the same as a heal plus it keeps working every turn so that you will almost always get a EM. This also does 2 more damage per turn then a long sword so you can get rid of those and i find that you don't need all of your toads and cockatrices to win quickly.

 the deck would end up being like this:

4 Druidic Staffs (un-upped)
10 Emerald Tower
4 Giant Frog
4 Elite Cockatrice
4 Epinephrine
4 Animate Weapon (upped)

(you want un-upped staffs because upped staffs don't heal as much)

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg152913#msg152913
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2010, 01:08:21 am »
I got an idea, how about 4 un-upped druidic staffs with 4 upped animate weapon and 4 epinephrine, on one turn these would do the same as a heal plus it keeps working every turn so that you will almost always get a EM. This also does 2 more damage per turn then a long sword so you can get rid of those and i find that you don't need all of your toads and cockatrices to win quickly.

 the deck would end up being like this:

4 Druidic Staffs (un-upped)
10 Emerald Tower
4 Giant Frog
4 Elite Cockatrice
4 Epinephrine
4 Animate Weapon (upped)

(you want un-upped staffs because upped staffs don't heal as much)
I tried that before.  Its very fun and sometimes it works great, but elders with reverse time or infection will destroy those staves quickly and ruin the EM chance.  Packing heals is much more relaible IMO.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153015#msg153015
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2010, 03:54:50 am »
That is a flying drudic staves deck, it's a different deck entirely. It works great in some situations, but it's a lot less stable and consistent, it's also slower than this deck.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153625#msg153625
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2010, 01:26:01 am »
how well would this work unupped?
I've tried this deck unupped before and it certainly did not fare as well as its upped version.  The quantum gain from towers versus pillars as well as a lack of the same strength from your creatures makes it much more difficult to rush your opponent with an unupped version.  I also found that my loss rate was significantly greater than that of upped Speed EM (although this could have been just poor luck though I seriously doubt it).

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153629#msg153629
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2010, 01:44:41 am »
XD Napalm Grenade and i have been trying to have a contest of having a higher score and i use this deck for lvl 3. She usually plays pvp 2 or t50.  :)) Not the best way for her.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153636#msg153636
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2010, 02:07:14 am »
how well would this work unupped?
I've tried this deck unupped before and it certainly did not fare as well as its upped version.  The quantum gain from towers versus pillars as well as a lack of the same strength from your creatures makes it much more difficult to rush your opponent with an unupped version.  I also found that my loss rate was significantly greater than that of upped Speed EM (although this could have been just poor luck though I seriously doubt it).

Fantastic deck overall, though I too find the substitution of 5 emerald towers to life pendulums to be much more enjoyable when faced with an AI that decides to throw out the unexpected earthquake.
Yeah, I figured it didn't work so well unupped.

Yeah, I switched 5 Emerald towers out for 5 Life pendalums as well.  Makes the eq elder much easier.

I need to update the 1st post one of these days.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153654#msg153654
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2010, 02:31:31 am »
well id love to have this deck in my arsenal but being poor as i am i try to save every elctrum i have to make it:
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg153718#msg153718
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2010, 03:44:27 am »
well id love to have this deck in my arsenal but being poor as i am i try to save every elctrum i have to make it:
20k electrum down 25 more to go this will updated evry day
Awesome ICB.  Run this guy a while and we'll see you in the top 50.  If you get the frogs and swords updated, maybe some towers, this deck can function decently well partially upped.

 

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