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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg343085#msg343085
« Reply #180 on: May 30, 2011, 07:29:34 am »
I made a slight tweak to USEMosis which seems to be slightly quicker:

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The change is 6 frogs and 4 cockatrice to make better use of the frog casting cost.

I have not run any systematic testing and I am not sure if it is worth it for such a small change but the speed difference has been noticeable (if only slightly) over 150+ games this weekend.

I also experimented with epinephrine, scorpions and dragons but without any improvement.  I suspect this version is about as good as it is going to get in the current environment.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg344247#msg344247
« Reply #181 on: June 01, 2011, 01:51:23 am »
I made a slight tweak to USEMosis which seems to be slightly quicker:

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The change is 6 frogs and 4 cockatrice to make better use of the frog casting cost.

I have not run any systematic testing and I am not sure if it is worth it for such a small change but the speed difference has been noticeable (if only slightly) over 150+ games this weekend.

I also experimented with epinephrine, scorpions and dragons but without any improvement.  I suspect this version is about as good as it is going to get in the current environment.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg357712#msg357712
« Reply #182 on: June 28, 2011, 07:13:01 am »
Im trying to build a mono-life rush deck for a small mono-unupped competition with friends, Ive been testing both adrenalined scorps + heal and just frog/cockatrice/adrenaline rush but Im not sure which to use, both relatively comfortably beat the mummy/poison rush I was testing on in trainer to get an idea of how fast the mummy/shrieker rushes would be. Which do you think would work best unupped? There is a small amount of bonus points for EMs to consider so if both can win but heals mean EMs even if slightly closer win Im not sure.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg357795#msg357795
« Reply #183 on: June 28, 2011, 01:13:25 pm »
In the unupped environment frogs + adrenaline are a winner.  I would probably steer away from cockatrice in unupped.  Maybe try a combination of frogs and scorpions with adrenaline...

However for a PvP competition with friends I would be looking for more in the way of rush options rather than heal options.  Heals are great vs AI3 and EMs are what make the score gain really tick over but for PvP I would consider something else.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg357803#msg357803
« Reply #184 on: June 28, 2011, 01:37:58 pm »
Yeah although the way our rules work having a few EMs could be the difference between getting through or not. So far the heal/adrenalined scorps is working but if frogs would work better over scorp then I can always change it.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg357805#msg357805
« Reply #185 on: June 28, 2011, 01:43:57 pm »
Check out the frogs! Adrenafrogs is a really good, cheap damage.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg357876#msg357876
« Reply #186 on: June 28, 2011, 04:31:06 pm »
Yeah, thanks for the help. So far my hyper frogs are the only thing to have stopped fires powerful Dragon/PC/CC rush although I guess you could say I got lucky in him not drawing his fire shield. Ive also been unbeaten by all but one deck, leaving me comfortably through the first stage.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg365870#msg365870
« Reply #187 on: July 14, 2011, 12:31:32 pm »
heyy i was just wondering why put in life pend's and towers?

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg365873#msg365873
« Reply #188 on: July 14, 2011, 12:47:15 pm »
heyy i was just wondering why put in life pend's and towers?
It prevents earthquake from affecting the speed of the deck as much.  When you are speed grinding, every turn makes a difference.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg373863#msg373863
« Reply #189 on: July 31, 2011, 02:42:41 am »
Am I the only one who's never gotten a 4 TTW after 3000+ games played with this deck?

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg374105#msg374105
« Reply #190 on: July 31, 2011, 11:12:43 pm »
Am I the only one who's never gotten a 4 TTW after 3000+ games played with this deck?
Nope. ;) (And I've played a lot more than 3000)
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg374307#msg374307
« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2011, 03:20:02 pm »
Same here. Never happened over.. I don't know how many thousand games.
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