The Ultimate Speed EM Deck

[jmdt]

New elders are far too competent for their own good. Now I miss that annoying  / elder. Speedbow seems to do fine for now, but man is that  / annoying. I will try monodark, but there are lot of quantum pillar elders running around too. Just can't beat them so fast anymore.

About 80 games in, I'm getting a 7.286 ttw, 76.62% EM rate and 97.47% win rate versus the new elders with this deck.  All things considered, those stats are not far off from those from the previous elders.

The sky is definately not falling.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

these elders are still easy

[BC]

New elders are far too competent for their own good. Now I miss that annoying  / elder. Speedbow seems to do fine for now, but man is that  / annoying. I will try monodark, but there are lot of quantum pillar elders running around too. Just can't beat them so fast anymore.

About 80 games in, I'm getting a 7.286 ttw, 76.62% EM rate and 97.47% win rate versus the new elders with this deck.  All things considered, those stats are not far off from those from the previous elders.

The sky is definately not falling.

Sky is not falling, USEM is still good (although I did not get that high of a win rate from my tests) but these elders are far more focused and competent than the old ones. They are actually pretty threatening if you take too long to kill them.

[geekz_always_win]

Love the stats at the top, so nice!

[10 men]

I played about 250 games yesterday against the new AI3 with different decks.

Mono-Life is still good, you just ocasionally lose to the new mono-Aether guy.

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[BC]

Not sure how that mono dark would do, but I've been running fractal pest now, and have not lost once. Slow games though. 

[jmdt]

After 200 games versus 1.26, I got a 7.123 ttw 78.97% EM rate and a 97.5% win rate.

the win rate is down a few games, but the EM rate is up just a bit.

[TheForbiddenOracle]

So did they make new AI3 or make them harder?

[willng3]

So did they make new AI3 or make them harder?

Err...I'm not exactly understanding the first part of that question, but thus far because the TTW values are becoming slower, EMing is becoming (if slightly) less frequent, and losses are increasing I would have to say the new AI3 is more difficult than the previous.

[Higurashi]

Yes, we've gotten new Elder decks. No old ones remain. They're not all harder, but some are a real pain for EM decks. Cremation decks especially have taken a huge blow to speed.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

ok, after playing with this deck against the new AI3, i noticed that if u have a good understanding of all their CC, u can avoid all ur creatures being killed

any elder with CC spell that does less than 5 dmg (poison counts): always send in a cockatrice first, to absorb the CC, more often than not, ur opponent won't have two, and he will still live

any elder with rewinds: send in frogs first, as they cost less, so if they get rewinded, it's easier to bring them out again

the one elder with pandemoniums: send in cockatrice over frogs, but still send frogs if no cockatrices, typically, u won't be owned by pandemoniums too bad...

[rowcla]

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I don't understand, why would anyone farm AI3 if you have so much cash to Upgrade a Mono rush deck?
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About the deck, it's a "basic" use 6 of all cards deck, what where your results with adrenaline and unUpped frogs?

You farm AI3 with this deck to gain score.  AI3 is already the best for score gain and by having the high EM potential with high speed makes this much greater.  You can seriously gain 4-5K score in a sitting with this deck if you want to.

I do not use adrenaline as it makes for a less stable deck.  infection and fire shield destroy a card with adrenaline and against CC you lose 2 cards when an adrenalined card is killed.  Upped frog is always better than unupped frog, even with adrenaline.

unless you have a ridiculously high score already and want to stay in the leaderboards, isnt score pretty much useless