Crusader | Elite Crusader

[avidteen13]

@Jmizzle7: SG presented a good argument against humans in Elements and said Zanz was probably against it.  If Zanz doesn't like it, then I support making it some sort of light being with an enchanted suit.  I was just brainstorming some names for the spirit if we decided to do that.

[Arondight]

If it can't be a Crusader... make it an animated suit of armor of some kind. 

[Xinef]

I guess the name Crusader does not imply it is a human, even angel crusaders makes sense. Either make him an angel, a creature composed of light, or make him a diamond/crystalline creature.

I still wonder though, why Graviton Mercenaries look so much like humans. Somehow I think they don't fit in this game much more than this idea.

[Arondight]

I guess the name Crusader does not imply it is a human, even angel crusaders makes sense. Either make him an angel, a creature composed of light, or make him a diamond/crystalline creature.

I still wonder though, why Graviton Mercenaries look so much like humans. Somehow I think they don't fit in this game much more than this idea.

I always thought those "creatures" were humans in armor or something, which I liked a lot.

[Jaxly]

Does anyone else consider the oracle to be human? Not sure if he's directly within the core concept of the game though..
Bit of a sticky wicket I guess

[Xinef]

Does anyone else consider the oracle to be human? Not sure if he's directly within the core concept of the game though..
Bit of a sticky wicket I guess

I guess with oracle it is similar as it is with Zanz... some might see Zanz as a human, but in fact he is a divine being.

[Arondight]

I see the Oracle as a photoshopped Buddha.  Nothing more.

[Xinef]

I see the Oracle as a photoshopped Buddha.  Nothing more.

Take into account that Buddha is a divine being for some people
Ok, not for me because I'm a Catholic, but I guess for Buddhists he is.

[Arondight]

I see the Oracle as a photoshopped Buddha.  Nothing more.

Take into account that Buddha is a divine being for some people
Ok, not for me because I'm a Catholic, but I guess for Buddhists he is.

I do and did, why wouldn't I when I'm Chinese?

But, I digress. 

[jmizzle7]

I really don't get why everybody is worked up over the human aspect. I have never heard Zanz explicitly say that he doesn't want humans in the game. If he doesn't want human or humanoid creatures in Elements, then I suppose that he would have to change Graviton Mercenary/Guard and all the nymphs to be less human. Last time I checked, the art for those is a girl with long hair, photoshopped to look like the element to which she belongs.

[Arondight]

Personally I don't mind either way, I just want your card idea in game.  Humans are a creature, too. Or monster. Or Pocket monster.. Darn monkeys. No humans in Elements = racist.

[Scaredgirl]

I really don't get why everybody is worked up over the human aspect. I have never heard Zanz explicitly say that he doesn't want humans in the game. If he doesn't want human or humanoid creatures in Elements, then I suppose that he would have to change Graviton Mercenary/Guard and all the nymphs to be less human. Last time I checked, the art for those is a girl with long hair, photoshopped to look like the element to which she belongs.

Graviton Mercenaries and Nymphs are clearly fantasy creatures and nothing in either of them says they are human. Crusader, who is basically a knight, is a historical human creature. Sure anything could be inside that armor, but when you see the image and read the name, I think everyone assumes it's a human.

If Crusader gets into the game, my question is: what's next? Are we going to have Clerics, Thiefs and Shop Keepers as well?

If Zanz starts introducing humans, it might change the whole "feel" of Elements. Currently we have only animals and fantasy creatures which makes Elements different from most of the fantasy games out there that all have the basic Dungeons & Dragons classes.

I personally think humans should get their own element. 'Other' is perfect for that because it implies how weak humans are compared to other elements.