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Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202401#msg1202401
« on: August 27, 2015, 03:11:10 am »
NAME:
Altruism
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
7 :life
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
All creatures on the field have their ability replaced with:
1: Sacrifice self to heal owner for 10 HP
NAME:
Altruism
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
8 :life
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
All your creatures have their ability replaced with:
1: Sacrifice self to heal owner for 10 HP

ART:
Just some placeholder art from here
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Acts as a mass lobotomy and also makes use of Life's swarming tactics to give more healing.

Might have to rebalance HP gain to prevent this from somehow outclassing other healing spells (specifically things like Heal and Holy Light).

Immaterial creatures? Not sure how it should react, I'd say it won't be affected since that's how other AoE cards interact with it.

Anyways, yeah. Pretty self explanatory.
CHANGES:
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- Changed name from Lamb's Own | Lamb's Own to Altruism | Altruism
- Raised cost of upped from 7 :life to 8 :life and made it only affect your creatures
- Changed the health gain for both to 10 HP
- Raised cost of sacrifice from 0 to 1
- Added placeholder art
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 08:28:55 pm by AD TienzuStorm »
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Re: Lamb's Own | Lamb's Own [better name suggestions?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202412#msg1202412
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 05:56:51 am »
Could go with Scapegoat.

Nice soft CC for life that makes use of it's cheap creatures.
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Re: Lamb's Own | Lamb's Own [better name suggestions?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202444#msg1202444
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 03:43:32 pm »
I like the card mechanic... Thematically its an odd fit in life though. Sacrificing creatures for health seems like a darkness thing... or the self sacrifice theme would sit better in light. The mass ability wipe part does work well mechanically for life, however, since it is an element that will do very well in a raw stats race.
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Re: Lamb's Own | Lamb's Own [better name suggestions?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202482#msg1202482
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 10:19:58 pm »
I like the card mechanic... Thematically its an odd fit in life though. Sacrificing creatures for health seems like a darkness thing... or the self sacrifice theme would sit better in light. The mass ability wipe part does work well mechanically for life, however, since it is an element that will do very well in a raw stats race.

Yeah, it was originally in Darkness, but I switched to Life because

A) Darkness is powerful enough, and for that reason I don't like designing cards for it
B) Life would benefit the most from this kind of card due to Life's sheer amount of creatures
C) Life also would appreciate soft CC and this is a nice effect in my opinion, since it doesn't necessarily kill anything, it's the owner's own "badness" that kills the creatures (I suppose this could work well in Death what with Skeleton spamming and Afla to an extent... Meh)

That's also why the name isn't well thought out (I usually make theme first, but if I switch elements, I have to remake themes).
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202820#msg1202820
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 06:33:15 pm »
Updated with a new name (thank you AA ^^).

Anyways, any more feedback, or should I attempt sneaking this into LCC before updating time? :P
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202821#msg1202821
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 06:36:03 pm »
I like it, but I feel like the upgraded version should only affect you. Kind of like the Pandemonium effect, where its upgraded, it only affects the opponents side..

Am I the only one that feels that?
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202822#msg1202822
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2015, 06:36:12 pm »
FTR, we were talking about this kind of Altruism in chat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism_(biology), not philosophical altruism

I like it, but I feel like the upgraded version should only affect you. Kind of like the Pandemonium effect, where its upgraded, it only affects the opponents side..

Am I the only one that feels that?

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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202823#msg1202823
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2015, 06:40:45 pm »
Hm. Would it be a good idea to raise the price of the upped (similar to Pandemonium) then?
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202824#msg1202824
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2015, 06:44:19 pm »
Hm. Would it be a good idea to raise the price of the upped (similar to Pandemonium) then?

Yes, and maybe reduce to 10 for both, instead of 15/20
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202825#msg1202825
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2015, 06:47:09 pm »
Hm. Would it be a good idea to raise the price of the upped (similar to Pandemonium) then?

Yes, and maybe reduce to 10 for both, instead of 15/20

I agree with this.
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202837#msg1202837
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2015, 08:29:25 pm »
Updated. Even got some art, will likely change it later though.
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Re: Altruism | Altruism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59319.msg1202947#msg1202947
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2015, 09:38:02 am »
Silly idea I want to throw out there:
Heal target creature or player.

 

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