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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539986#msg539986
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2012, 10:31:50 pm »
The discussion seems to drift from the Imagerie card mechanic towards the practical implications of illusions. I'd suggest a different discussion (sub-)thread for the illusion mechanic. The card in itself produces creatures, an ability already worthy of discussion.

(I hope I don't bypass a lot of discussion; I read all the forum guidelines, but I might miss some discussions that cover exactly that what I suggest. However, in this case the discussion seems diverted)

On the card: For such a strong mechanic I especially like the non-altered CC and activation cost for the upgraded card for symmetry reasons; on the other hand, somehow I feel this might be slightly overpowered for the upgraded version.

For balance reason perhaps this card could be split in two cards (four versions): permanent with activation cost (plus upgraded version) and a spell variant (plus upgraded version).

Also, there might even be a distinction between cards that produce illusions and cards that don't. It makes better use of the design space as I see it.

To conclude, I definitely like this card  8)
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg540018#msg540018
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2012, 12:24:24 am »
This. Card. Is. Awesome.

Such originality and quite frankly, genius! The potential for an illusion is simply unheard of in Elements.


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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg540022#msg540022
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2012, 12:35:12 am »
And illusion can be a new passive state for an :aether creature. Well done ET!
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg540047#msg540047
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2012, 02:50:00 am »
Does the upped need added cost?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1021534#msg1021534
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2012, 12:36:47 am »
Not sure why i didn't submit this. Any issues before I do?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1021549#msg1021549
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2012, 01:12:09 am »
Will this illusion deal attack damage? If not, it will be evident immediately to the opposing player that it is an illusion if they are paying careful attention...

As someone noted, this delves a bit into the theory of practical implementation of illusion type effects... but it is a good a point to consider...

That aside, I really love this card and have been thinking of using illusion and decoy like effects myself. Very cool idea.

I love the artwork by the way... kind of reminds me of the overmind from StarCraft.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 01:16:55 am by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1031650#msg1031650
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2013, 05:58:53 pm »
Final Check. Is this good enough to submit?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1031651#msg1031651
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2013, 06:07:30 pm »
Final Check. Is this good enough to submit?
Looks ready, but one question : How are Pharoah or FFQ better than this card? Not only is this card cheaper, spawned mutants have the potential to be stronger than normal creatures. (Keep in mind Swarm card + Mutation is generally considered cool but impractical. This card has that combo built in minus 1 card. I assume the illusion effect doesn't matter too much since it's pretty easy to kill early spawned Scarabs and Fireflies)

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1031668#msg1031668
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2013, 06:20:54 pm »
The only thing that comes to mind to answer the question is: A player would need to plan ahead to anticipate potential results.
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1109583#msg1109583
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2013, 07:48:38 am »
Does. this go to archives or has it not been in pole yet?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg1109587#msg1109587
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2013, 09:18:04 am »
Does. this go to archives or has it not been in pole yet?

If you have already riveved the thread, I must give you +Rep for this art. Awesome!
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