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Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203062#msg1203062
« on: August 31, 2015, 10:44:49 pm »
NAME:
Grains of the Minute
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target player draws 2 cards.
NAME:
Grains of the Hour
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target player draws till hand is full. Consume :time :time for each card beyond the third.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:
Upped: If :time is not available for consumption, player only draws for the quanta they do have.
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Spoiler for Previous:
NAME:
Grains of the Minute
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target player draws 2 cards.
NAME:
Grains of the Hour
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target player draws till hand is full.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:

SERIES:

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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203064#msg1203064
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2015, 10:58:26 pm »
Seems quite OP to me - Hourglass costs 4 :time and the ability costs 2 :time, plus summoning sickness means it takes 2 turns. The ability to target should surely increase the cost.

I can see the upped version being massively abused in rush decks.

My sense of balance could be completely off. Any other thoughts?

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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203071#msg1203071
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 11:42:25 pm »
Seems quite OP to me - Hourglass costs 4 :time and the ability costs 2 :time, plus summoning sickness means it takes 2 turns. The ability to target should surely increase the cost.

I can see the upped version being massively abused in rush decks.

My sense of balance could be completely off. Any other thoughts?

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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203084#msg1203084
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 02:44:52 am »
Ditto, the upped looks much too dangerous. It'd only take 2 supernovas then you could clear out your hand of graboids etc and get a whole new hand to replace them. Alternatively in a drawn-out game make the opponent draw up to 8 cards for deckout. It needs a big cost increase and possibly :time drain to stop you chaining them.
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203086#msg1203086
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 02:55:21 am »
What if there was a limit for when this can be used? Such as 'this can only be used when the target has X r more/less cards in his/her hand.'
Also, the shortening of until is 'til.
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203112#msg1203112
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2015, 10:49:18 am »
What if there was a limit for when this can be used? Such as 'this can only be used when the target has X r more/less cards in his/her hand.'

Requiring X or less cards still seems broken to me, as you could still empty your hand and just leave this 'til last. (Note 'til ;) )

Requiring X or more seems more reasonable. As in, you can only use it if you have, say, 3 or more other cards in your hand. Meaning it can draw you up to 5 cards maximum. Still sounds OP though for just 4 :time. SoSer gets you 3 totally random cards for only 1 :rainbow less.
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203113#msg1203113
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2015, 10:50:04 am »
I think Emerald Tiger just made this card to showcase his fabulous art work :D
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203133#msg1203133
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2015, 02:54:26 pm »
Is that better?
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203134#msg1203134
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2015, 03:01:35 pm »
The unupped looks horribly UP right now. Compare with SoBr or precog. 9 quanta to draw 2 cards is just too much.
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203135#msg1203135
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2015, 03:11:03 pm »


Put these there so I could have a visual reference. My original thought for cost was more accurate,( at least for the unupped.)

It would be 4-5 :time for the unupped and 4 :time  absorb  :time  :time for the upped?
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203145#msg1203145
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2015, 04:47:46 pm »
The unupped looks horribly UP right now. Compare with SoBr or precog. 9 quanta to draw 2 cards is just too much.
9? Am I missing something or was it a typo for 5?
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Re: Grains of the Minute | Grains of the Hour https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59377.msg1203146#msg1203146
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2015, 04:50:05 pm »
no there was an in between version
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