Essence Wyrm | Essence Wyvern [Legacy - Crucible]

[ZephyrPhantom]

NAME: Essence Wyrm ELEMENT: Air COST: 11 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Costs 1 less per card that left play. Stats are equal to current cost - 2 .	NAME: Essence Wyvern ELEMENT: Air COST: 10 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Costs 1 less per card that left play. Stats are equal to current cost - 1.

ART: Thalas, modified by Zblader IDEA: Zblader NOTES: A card that leaves play is any card that is removed from the field, regardless of type or how it left (this means Reverse Time also counts.) Cost decreases will only occur for the Wyrms in your hand. Fractaling this card will give you it's original 11 | 10 card in your hand. Cost cannot go below 0. SERIES:

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NAME: Essence Wyrm ELEMENT: Air COST: 11 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Costs 1 less per card that left play. Stats are equal to current cost.	NAME: Essence Wyvern ELEMENT: Air COST: 10 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: + | + TEXT: Costs 1 less per card that left play. Stats are equal to current cost + 1.

ART: Thalas, modified by Zblader IDEA: Zblader NOTES: A card that leaves play is any card that is removed from the field, regardless of type or how it left (this means Reverse Time also counts.) Cost decreases will only occur for the Wyrms in your hand. Fractaling this card will give you it's original 11 | 10 card in your hand. SERIES:

[EvaRia]

Does this only happen while the card is in hand?

(Eg. if, say, a spark dies, do the essence wyrms in the rest of your deck also decrease in cost?)

[ZephyrPhantom]

Does this only happen while the card is in hand?

(Eg. if, say, a spark dies, do the essence wyrms in the rest of your deck also decrease in cost?)

Yes, cost deceases only in your hand.
(Additional sidenote : Fractaling Essence Wyrm gives you the original 11 | 10 copy in your hand.)

[Arum]

Pretty good. High cost for good stats. Only problem is if you have a essence wyvern leave play with this in your hand. Uh-oh. 0|0 creature.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Pretty good. High cost for good stats. Only problem is if you have a essence wyvern leave play with this in your hand. Uh-oh. 0|0 creature.

An essence wyrm leaving the field still counts as 1 card, so Essence Wyrms in your hand would just cost 10 and have 10 | 10 instead when one leaves the field assuming no other cards were removed.

v EDIT v : Never made such an edit, btw. You're probably thinking of another card. Also, my common sense trolling senses are tingling.

[Arum]

Pretty good. High cost for good stats. Only problem is if you have a essence wyvern leave play with this in your hand. Uh-oh. 0|0 creature.

An essence wyrm leaving the field still counts as 1 card, so Essence Wyrms in your hand would just cost 10 and have 10 | 10 instead when one leaves the field assuming no other cards were removed.

I was referring to the older version where the card text said "Cost of this card is equal to the cost of the card that just left play, - 1. ATK and HP equal the cost." Or something similar to that.

[ARTHANASIOS]

This card is interesting, however a dragon creature having a cost equal to its atk|def stats should be a  creature and not an  creature IMO. Just compare the stats and costs of Golden Dragon/Light Dragon and Azure Dragon/Sky Dragon and you will see what I mean. 

[Drake_XIV]

When I read Essence, I thought .  I guess since it's Wyrm | Wyvern, it's acceptable in as well.

Does it activate when part of a stack is destroyed [Bone Wall, Pillar stacks]?

Do spells count toward this?

[ZephyrPhantom]

This card is interesting, however a dragon creature having a cost equal to its atk|def stats should be a  creature and not an  creature IMO. Just compare the stats and costs of Golden Dragon/Light Dragon and Azure Dragon/Sky Dragon and you will see what I mean. 

Pardon me, but I don't see a relation between this card and your argument. Abomination is another creature with cost equal to it's attack and defense - it seems like Spirit Wyvern could also be due to equal stats (being a 'dragon' doesn't hold much weight given that this isn't an actual dragon and that every element already has one). In fact, putting this in Light would probably be much more redundant than Air because the two cards would be near-identical in stats and cost, with one just having an ability in the hand instead. It's lower-cost ability is meant to make it the mid-large hitter of Air (similar to GoTP/Seraph), which also conflicts with Archangel. The closest thing Air has to a midhitter is Wyrm, which is more mid-small (like Pegasus or Cockatrice).

When I read Essence, I thought .  I guess since it's Wyrm | Wyvern, it's acceptable in as well.

Does it activate when part of a stack is destroyed [Bone Wall, Pillar stacks]? Stacks count as multiple cards and will decrease Spirit Wyvern's by X amount destroyed. (This includes shield stacks because I don't think the game differentiates between how the stack got there in the first place.)

Do spells count toward this? The spell itself doesn't count, but what it removes from the field will.

[Cunning_Wish]

very fun

[ARTHANASIOS]

This card is interesting, however a dragon creature having a cost equal to its atk|def stats should be a  creature and not an  creature IMO. Just compare the stats and costs of Golden Dragon/Light Dragon and Azure Dragon/Sky Dragon and you will see what I mean. 

Pardon me, but I don't see a relation between this card and your argument. Abomination is another creature with cost equal to it's attack and defense - it seems like Spirit Wyvern could also be due to equal stats (being a 'dragon' doesn't hold much weight given that this isn't an actual dragon and that every element already has one). In fact, putting this in Light would probably be much more redundant than Air because the two cards would be near-identical in stats and cost, with one just having an ability in the hand instead. It's lower-cost ability is meant to make it the mid-large hitter of Air (similar to GoTP/Seraph), which also conflicts with Archangel. The closest thing Air has to a midhitter is Wyrm, which is more mid-small (like Pegasus or Cockatrice).

What I try to say is that in cards with HIGH attack stats and HIGH cost (and NOT the average attack and cost of the Abomination) only  has atk=hp. We're not talking about 3|3, 4|4 or 5|5 creatures here, but for 10|10, 11|11 or 12|12 creatures. The fact it is not truly a dragon doesn't mean something, the discussion is about its stats. You cannot put a high attack & high health creature in an element without comparing its atk,hp and cost with another creature of the same element. Just compare your 11 cost 11|11 stats (or 10 cost 10|10 stats) Essence Wyrm with the 10 cost 9|6 stats Azure Dragon (or 12 cost 13|7 stats Sky Dragon). Your Essence Wyrm is OP in comparison with Azure/Sky Dragon and it would make the dragon of the sky element relatively weak and quite useless.

[microman362]

I really love both the art used in the card and the concept of it. No cards use the same concept yet, as far as I know. I'd love to see this one implemented. =)