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Copacati | Copacati https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1209860#msg1209860
« on: October 12, 2015, 08:39:26 am »
NAME:
Copacati
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
:life :life : Acid Belch
Target card's ability cost is now :life :life .
NAME:
Copacati
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
:life :life : Acid Belch
Target card's ability cost is now :life :life .

ART:
multiple public articles found on the internet
IDEA:
Article about acid spitting dragon races, more specifically the Copacatis: http://naominovik.com/wiki/Copacati
I can't remember, but the idea came to me around when i came up with Sinister Vampire.
NOTES:
You can target creatures and permanents too.
If you target a card without ability cost, nothing happens. (e.g Voodoo Doll, Jade Staff, Malignant Cell)
This card is both soft-lobotomizer for :life and a huge speed boost (also for :life). If you Mitosis Jade Dragon, Tongue Strike will speed up the process. You can also make weapons like Eternity and Pulverizer have in-element skill for you. (that's why it has such a ridiculous ability cost for such low stats)

Spoiler for Old Versions:

Spoiler for Version with art:


still looking for an uncopyrighted art, but i imagined something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/cjnm54D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NlzFP2m.jpg
SERIES:
still none
« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 06:55:03 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1209865#msg1209865
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 09:18:44 am »
The issue here is that the 8 cost for what is essentially a weaker Shard of Readiness is... Really not worth it. At least, not in my eyes.
I suppose you're trading the ability to duo with an element that isn't time for four times the cost of SoR, which... Could be useful.
It's a shame how mitosis kills the card here. D:

Can I ask how being struck by a chameleon's tongue makes you suddenly need life quanta to function? Not that that's bad. I like the sound of that.

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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1209890#msg1209890
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 12:14:02 pm »
Can I ask how being struck by a chameleon's tongue makes you suddenly need life quanta to function? Not that that's bad. I like the sound of that.

And what does it have to do with orks?  ?_?
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1209896#msg1209896
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 12:23:53 pm »
Well chameleons change their colors, so at first I was thinking that it would be an element changing card, but then i realized that it would be a useless skill.
Then I was thinking that it should change target's element. Not the card element, but the element of the ability, rather.
So after I noticed the problem that chameleons couldn't possibly make other creatures change color, I made them chameleon orcs, which are entirely new creatures created by me, so I can give any kind of magic, color-changing power to them.
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1209900#msg1209900
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 12:43:16 pm »
-snip-
So after I noticed the problem that chameleons couldn't possibly make other creatures change color, I made them chameleon orcs, which are entirely new creatures created by me, so I can give any kind of magic, color-changing power to them.

Logical step, however the problem with using well known templates (and especially combinging them) will make people associate with what they know of those templates, which will cause confusion.

For new species perhaps it's better in the long run to create a (random) new name with a name generator.
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For example one of them spat out Taintvine on first, which I think does match the effect of this card (the vine ensnares the target and taints it to belong to :life )
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210090#msg1210090
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 01:37:23 pm »
-snip-
So after I noticed the problem that chameleons couldn't possibly make other creatures change color, I made them chameleon orcs, which are entirely new creatures created by me, so I can give any kind of magic, color-changing power to them.

Logical step, however the problem with using well known templates (and especially combinging them) will make people associate with what they know of those templates, which will cause confusion.

For new species perhaps it's better in the long run to create a (random) new name with a name generator.
Spoiler for Example:
For example one of them spat out Taintvine on first, which I think does match the effect of this card (the vine ensnares the target and taints it to belong to :life )

I suggest Chrome Changer for the name, or Color Cleric.
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210117#msg1210117
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 03:32:53 pm »
I suggest Chrome Changer for the name, or Color Cleric.
I like these names, though I'd like them to represent either :life or the color green to fit the element. ^^"

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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210124#msg1210124
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 04:02:13 pm »
I suggest Chrome Changer for the name, or Color Cleric.
I like these names, though I'd like them to represent either :life or the color green to fit the element. ^^"

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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210128#msg1210128
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015, 04:30:26 pm »
Vitality Mage or something. Or even like Infester or Infector (although that kinda makes it sound like it deals with CC, which it kinda does but shh).
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Re: Chameleon Orc | Chameleon Uruk https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210210#msg1210210
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 03:23:02 am »
Taintvine sounds like an innuendo.

Anyway, I suggest Life Cultist. :P

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Re: Copacati | Copacati https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210631#msg1210631
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2015, 11:47:08 am »
I lowered the cost, changed the name and added art. The cost is now around Fallen Elf|Druid-ish levels.
Now about the possible strategies:

1) One option is to run some Copacatis in a :life - :entropy duo. You can use Acid Belch on mutants with off-element abilities, without relying on Nova|SNova.

2) Run a Mitosis + Jade Dragon deck with some Copacatis in the deck. Mitosis will be much faster.

3) Use it in a :water - :life duo to accelerate the Zerg Swarm process of your nymphs.

etc.

Advantages over SoR: repeatable, usable as CC.
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Re: Copacati | Copacati https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59989.msg1210634#msg1210634
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2015, 11:56:43 am »
Flavor is much more appealing than it was before, IMHO and card itself has a number of uses that act as a soft in-between to SoR and Lobo. Nice rework IMHO; I'd totally vote for an artless version of this in Crucible polls.


 

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