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Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207305#msg1207305
« on: September 27, 2015, 11:06:15 am »
NAME:
Bat
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Acousting detection
Target's weakness is revealed, it receives 100% extra damage this turn (25% if player)
NAME:
Bat
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Acousting detection
Target's weakness is revealed, it receives 100% extra damage this turn (25% if player)

ART:
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NOTES:
Synergises with just about everything, from direct damage through CC up to healing (vampirism, Stiletto and Drain Life)
Effect does not stack with self - might do with similar effects.

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« Last Edit: October 01, 2015, 04:42:14 pm by Treldon »
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207307#msg1207307
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 11:07:57 am »
I like this card, but maybe keep the active ability cost the same
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207308#msg1207308
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 11:08:13 am »
Should be double damage for creatures

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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207313#msg1207313
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 11:43:04 am »
@Discord: Keeping the ability cost at  :air :air would decrease the usefulness of the card more than higher stats could increase it in my opinion

@serpex: Double damage on creatures might be a bit strong, no? Just considering the cc options in  :darkness:air Shockwave would deal 8 damage, EE 6,  Thunderstorm 4 to each, Drain Life also 4. Perhaps 50% increase is doable, but 100% is just too much I think
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207338#msg1207338
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 02:26:16 pm »
@Discord: Keeping the ability cost at  :air :air would decrease the usefulness of the card more than higher stats could increase it in my opinion

@serpex: Double damage on creatures might be a bit strong, no? Just considering the cc options in  :darkness:air Shockwave would deal 8 damage, EE 6,  Thunderstorm 4 to each, Drain Life also 4. Perhaps 50% increase is doable, but 100% is just too much I think

You have to play a specific duo and spend a card for it, so not really. It's not a good stall card due to huge weakness to cc, so this card is pretty limited. Double damage for creatures and 25% for players would make it viable imo.
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207343#msg1207343
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 02:53:15 pm »
Current :darkness creatures all have low stats and are vulnerable to CC (VD excluded), I was just following the template.

I guess a poll is in order
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207344#msg1207344
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 03:01:04 pm »
A 'lil bit of nitpick: I think the ability should've been spelt as Accoustic detection.

At any rate, though, I do hope that Accousting detection (sic.) does not affect poisoned creatures; too complicated to code, naaa~ :/
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207351#msg1207351
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 03:25:49 pm »
Hmm... seems a little weak unless it accumulates over the entire turn and then adds the damage. Otherwise rounding down will be an issue.

I made a vampire bat card a while back if you want to use the art. Its a modified wikipedia image so be sure to also site the original art link if you decide to use it.

Original art link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#/media/File:Golden_crowned_fruit_bat.jpg
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207355#msg1207355
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 03:35:19 pm »
Hmm... seems a little weak unless it accumulates over the entire turn and then adds the damage. Otherwise rounding down will be an issue.

Accumulating all damage would require a Chimera-esqe collection of damages, which would require a whole new ability or spell.
A buff is in order, the question is how much.

And thanks for the art, the first one looks really good. The only "problem" with it is that it's a fruit bat which does not rely on echolocation but its eyes. We'll see.
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207864#msg1207864
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2015, 06:44:18 am »
Reworked a bit. Cost increased, ability cost is always  :air :air, spelling corrected, art added (slightly redone), now allows 100%/25% extra damage
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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207911#msg1207911
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2015, 12:28:35 pm »
That's one smooth way to implement Banshee's Sonar. Nicely done, fellow Tenno. :D

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Re: Bat | Bat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59711.msg1207946#msg1207946
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2015, 04:06:04 pm »
Voodoo OTK with this would be interesting. Also, I assume this does not stack with itself?
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