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Asteroid | Satellite [Legacy - Armory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444815#msg444815
« on: January 03, 2012, 03:59:44 pm »
NAME:
Asteroid
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N|3
TEXT:
Orbit: Attack is equal to card's position on the board.
NAME:
Satellite
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N|4
TEXT:
Orbit: Attack is equal to card's position on the board.
ART:
xploited, from http://desktop.freewallpaper4.me/download/3323/meteor-shower
IDEA:
mesaprotector, with help from Bhlewos and Iman00b8
NOTES:
This card synergizes with Fractal and Mitosis, of course, but also with Aflatoxin, Graveyard, and cheap creatures like Graviton Guard. The point was to come up with more cards which are affected by field position (the only one currently in-game isn't used much.) Of course, Flooding makes Satellite pretty much useless.
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444836#msg444836
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 05:12:03 pm »
sounds good ;)
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444840#msg444840
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 05:24:21 pm »
Sounds OP to me if you think about fractaling it.
So maybe you can lower the hp a bit.

But I still like the main idea.

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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444857#msg444857
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 06:07:05 pm »
Sounds OP to me if you think about fractaling it.
So maybe you can lower the hp a bit.

But I still like the main idea.
That's what I thought too, but Fractal Scarabs isn't OP or even used much. The cost could be raised, but then it might be UP.
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444858#msg444858
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 06:14:43 pm »
Sounds OP to me if you think about fractaling it.
So maybe you can lower the hp a bit.

But I still like the main idea.
That's what I thought too, but Fractal Scarabs isn't OP or even used much. The cost could be raised, but then it might be UP.
that is becouse the swarm ability isn't used for it's attack power but for it's hitpoints.
this card uses it's ability for it's attack power. But is this realy a card that we need in the game? It looks like it's only is going to work with fractal or mitosis.
These cards allready have enough interactions. This card would not see play, I Think.
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444863#msg444863
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 06:33:00 pm »
You can add a limit,

OR!!!
Let it have this secondairy skill:
Fuel(since it needs some fuel and if it's too far  away it can't work anymore): when this card is spawned on a postition higher that 10 (upped 15)(or some less or more) it'll die at the end of the turn ( like spark does)

We can think of a better name

only an idea
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Orbit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444870#msg444870
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 06:52:44 pm »
Why is the upped version have a lower cost and higher HP?

I believe it's okay as it is, but I think N should be position / 2 making it increase 1 ATK every two positions and a max of 12.
23 ATK is too much in elements, and setting a limit would deter it from reaching the highest position on the board.

And what? Fuel? It's an inanimate rock, why does it need fuel?
Hey, can we make it airborne?

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Re: Satellite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444874#msg444874
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 06:58:06 pm »
Why is the upped version have a lower cost and higher HP?

I believe it's okay as it is, but I think N should be position / 2 making it increase 1 ATK every two positions and a max of 12. then it would be UP
23 ATK is too much in elements, and setting a limit would deter it from reaching the highest position on the board.

And what? Fuel? It's an inanimate rock, why does it need fuel? I believe satalite is a machine which it shot into space to study other planets
Hey, can we make it airborne?
But indeed satellite and asteroide or 2 differend things
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Natural Power https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444877#msg444877
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 07:13:43 pm »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_satellite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_satellite)
But then again, that would make Satellite the upped considering the size.



And no not UP considering the cost, and looking at the arithmetic series:
23 Black dragons for 230 ATK, 230+ Quanta
about 1 dmg per quanta

23 Satellites for 276 ATK, 93+ Quanta (at 1-23 ATK)
about  3 dmg per quanta

23 Satellites for 155.25 ATK, 93+ Quanta (at 1-12 ATK)
about 1.25 dmg per quanta

And don't forget the upped version will make it 69 Quanta and 7 HP instead of 10.
I think the unupped is fine, but attention needs to be paid for the upped.

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Re: Natural Power https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444879#msg444879
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 07:23:01 pm »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_satellite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_satellite)
But then again, that would make Satellite the upped considering the size.



And no not UP considering the cost, and looking at the arithmetic series:
23 Black dragons for 230 ATK, 230+ Quanta
about 1 dmg per quanta

23 Satellites for 276 ATK, 93+ Quanta (at 1-23 ATK)
about  3 dmg per quanta

23 Satellites for 155.25 ATK, 93+ Quanta (at 1-12 ATK)
about 1.25 dmg per quanta
Well yes, but it's extremely difficult to reach that 23rd creature slot. Flooding restricts you to only five creatures... but it's not a common card. If the attack were N/2, this wouldn't be worth playing until you already had 7-8 creatures out.

I will reverse the names, though, thanks for the suggestion :) .
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444891#msg444891
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 08:30:42 pm »
Brilliant mechanic!
I think the upped should either have the same defense as the unupped with current cost or same cost as unupped but current Hp.
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Re: Satellite | Asteroid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35310.msg444969#msg444969
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 11:56:54 pm »
Like I said in chat last night, I wholeheartedly approve. =D The more field-affecting cards, the better.

It would combo with this card idea (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,35295.0.html) of mine as well.

 

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