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Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133835#msg1133835
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NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
1 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 1
TEXT:
Your opponent gains 1 quantum tower when this card is played.
NAME:
Vigor
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
1 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 1
TEXT:
Your opponent gains 1 quantum pillar when this card is played.

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Another card in my series. This one might be op but I don't know sicne frog cost only 1 more and is a 5,2. What do you think?

I will also need help with a different name for the upped version.
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133839#msg1133839
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 10:19:04 am »
Again, quantum tower  :P
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133840#msg1133840
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 10:22:37 am »
Again, quantum tower  :P
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133842#msg1133842
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 10:28:11 am »
Again, quantum tower  :P
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133862#msg1133862
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 03:37:44 pm »
Vigor | Constitution.
This backfires against rainbow decks. No doubt. Backfires. Just one quanta can make that graboid a shrieker. But, I seem to strangely like this card for some reason. Probably because the risk is worth it
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133872#msg1133872
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 05:16:18 pm »
Fractal comes to mind. Not sure if 1HP is enough to make it balanced.

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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133945#msg1133945
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 02:25:52 am »
Fractal comes to mind. Not sure if 1HP is enough to make it balanced.

Happy fun time with Black Hole too :P.
I see a Grav-Tear combo coming.

Conceptually I like it, although I'm not totally sure why you named it "Vigor", or why it is in the :water element.

Giving the opponent an energy surge seems more like an :aether move ... maybe :entropy given the chaotic nature of the surge.
I would definitely have fun trying to build a black hole deck around the fractal combo.
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133964#msg1133964
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 12:57:43 pm »
Fractal comes to mind. Not sure if 1HP is enough to make it balanced.

Happy fun time with Black Hole too :P.
I see a Grav-Tear combo coming.

Conceptually I like it, although I'm not totally sure why you named it "Vigor", or why it is in the :water element.

Giving the opponent an energy surge seems more like an :aether move ... maybe :entropy given the chaotic nature of the surge.
I would definitely have fun trying to build a black hole deck around the fractal combo.
To be honest thinking twice I don't know if water was the best element since it already got a good damager in form of abyss. I choosed water since I thought that water nymph worked with pillars and therefore it should fit the water element. I'm not totally satisfied with the name either so ideas are welcome.

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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133984#msg1133984
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 02:23:53 pm »
It's definitely got a few good synergies - fractal (as someone mentioned), it's very cheap to go with SoP - you could easily make a good rush/TTK deck with just those cards and this (and pillars of course :p)

And since the creature in the art has wings, how about calling it Vigorwing? It has a nice ring to it
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1133989#msg1133989
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 02:38:25 pm »
I don't really like this card. Despite of being an interesting effect, giving a pillar to opponent has absolutely no big impact versus a mono or duo (except for Nymph Tear decks) while it can be quite bad against rainbow.
Though I like some comboes with this card (Black Hole, Devourer, Trident, EQ), I feel it is situational yet OP. 5 damage per turn for 1 :water is too good imo (let alone  :life :water and :aether :water duos which can spam Vigors without big effort and alrady have some other good synnergies to support them).
I don't want to imagine how even more OP this card will be with SoPa (but everything is OP with SoPa). :P
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1134000#msg1134000
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 04:27:22 pm »
I don't really like this card. Despite of being an interesting effect, giving a pillar to opponent has absolutely no big impact versus a mono or duo (except for Nymph Tear decks) while it can be quite bad against rainbow.
Though I like some comboes with this card (Black Hole, Devourer, Trident, EQ), I feel it is situational yet OP. 5 damage per turn for 1 :water (let alone  :life :water and :aether :water duos which can spam Vigors without big effort and alrady have some other good synnergies to support them).
I don't want to imagine how even more OP this card will be with SoPa (but everything is OP with SoPa). :P
I agree sopa makes this a lot better. What other element would be better for it?
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Re: Vigor l Vigor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54345.msg1134007#msg1134007
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2014, 05:00:03 pm »
I agree sopa makes this a lot better. What other element would be better for it?

Image seems :light or :air but the effect feels :entropy, :earth or :gravity.
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