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Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198420#msg1198420
« on: July 24, 2015, 09:58:05 pm »
NAME:
Genocide
ELEMENT:
Mercy (:death or :light)
COST:
9
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Destroy all creatures. For each creature the enemy loses, take 5 damage. For each creature you lose, heal 5 HP.
NAME:
Apocalypse
ELEMENT:
Mercy
COST:
7
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Destroy all creatures. For each creature the enemy loses, take 5 damage. For each creature you lose, heal 5 HP.

ART:
Free Art for Card Ideas Thread
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Genocide's damage to you cannot by prevented by any card. (This includes SoSac's damage reversal.)
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« Last Edit: July 24, 2015, 10:17:09 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198421#msg1198421
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2015, 10:07:27 pm »
This card is balanced, but some people would say it needs a bit more of a nerf.
So i'm going to say what some person is likely to say.

That it should only do damage to all creatures, NOT destroy them all.
This is mass CC and mass CC needs a mass NERF.

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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198423#msg1198423
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2015, 10:14:34 pm »
This card is balanced, but some people would say it needs a bit more of a nerf.
So i'm going to say what some person is likely to say.

That it should only do damage to all creatures, NOT destroy them all.
This is mass CC and mass CC needs a mass NERF.
Hm. In response to that kind of comment, here's what I would say:
Compare Rain of Fire which costs 7 | 5 instead but usually deals enough damage to wipe most of the enemy board, and Pandemonium that hits both sides for 3 :entropy with usually enough harmful effects to also wipe most creatures. This is more expensive than either so I feel the stronger destruction effect should be given the benefit of a doubt.

Also note that the damage/heal effect is intended to punish you the more advantage your opponent has - for example, if your opponent has 5 more creatures than you, using Genocide would level the board but also take a quarter of of your health away from you. That's way less efficient than Rain of Fire/Pandemonium in general.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2015, 10:16:30 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198424#msg1198424
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2015, 10:15:06 pm »
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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198425#msg1198425
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2015, 10:17:22 pm »
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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1198622#msg1198622
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 01:27:53 pm »
Genocide duo mark/background is very cool,

it seems more fair and tactical
to change it into "for each creature dies, its owner loses 5 HP."

destroying all creatures is rather powerful,
a sly player will make his opponents summon all his creatures
then cast Genocide, then summon all his creatures in his hand.

Genocide can be overpowered when used by a tactical player.

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Re: Genocide | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59005.msg1250539#msg1250539
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 11:36:32 pm »
I can see this being used in a infest genocide combo, alternatively, you could gain life equal to hps of destroyed creatures, while they take combined damage of their power. just a thought.
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