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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447016#msg447016
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447023#msg447023
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447025#msg447025
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2012, 05:13:35 pm »
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447026#msg447026
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447046#msg447046
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2012, 07:02:05 pm »
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447065#msg447065
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447067#msg447067
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447076#msg447076
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2012, 09:09:33 pm »
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447083#msg447083
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2012, 09:28:27 pm »
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I would like to dispute this result. We had 3 games and not one of them ended without a desync.
Game 1 he claims was his win and it's quite possible that, on his side, I was still there and it actually was. After much debate, he conceded that result in favour of a redo.
Game 2, he claims he had me at 2 life and 2 poison before the desync. Truth is, it was 8 life and 1 poison my end, with massive attack power on my side and two phase shields and a phase dragon in hand. I did not beat the AI however, since it started taking double turns and spawning immortal 0|0s.
Game 3, I actually beat his AI post-desync and he still claims it as his win.
I don't doubt that these were wins on his end but since my deck is highly random, I do not believe that a one sided victory counts for much. Still, I would be happy to give him the win he deserves were it not to also result in a loss that I don't.

I have no screenshots as proof of anything other than him disappearing game 3 though so if you wish to dispute my dispute then there's nothing I can do.

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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447087#msg447087
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2012, 09:50:44 pm »
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447089#msg447089
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2012, 09:57:46 pm »
I would like to dispute this result. We had 3 games and not one of them ended without a desync.
Game 1 he claims was his win and it's quite possible that, on his side, I was still there and it actually was. After much debate, he conceded that result in favour of a redo.
Game 2, he claims he had me at 2 life and 2 poison before the desync. Truth is, it was 8 life and 1 poison my end, with massive attack power on my side and two phase shields and a phase dragon in hand. I did not beat the AI however, since it started taking double turns and spawning immortal 0|0s.
Game 3, I actually beat his AI post-desync and he still claims it as his win.
I don't doubt that these were wins on his end but since my deck is highly random, I do not believe that a one sided victory counts for much. Still, I would be happy to give him the win he deserves were it not to also result in a loss that I don't.

I have no screenshots as proof of anything other than him disappearing game 3 though so if you wish to dispute my dispute then there's nothing I can do.
Game 2 should have been a replay if the desynch was serious enough to produce "immortal 0|0s" as you claim.
Game 3 -- both players must agree on the outcome of a post-desynch situation (be it playing it out, or replaying with same decks and marks) before taking any further action. I sense that there was a failure in communication between the two players somewhere; replay with same decks and marks.

Remember: ALWAYS talk with your opponent after a desynch and both of you decide on a course of action (replay, or play against AI). DO NOT LEAVE THE GAME until a consensus is reached; there are no timers after a timeout/desynch occurs. ALWAYS take screenshots whenever the timeout/desynch messages appear.
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Re: Beginners League 1/2012 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35476.msg447091#msg447091
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 10:10:52 pm »
The immortal 0|0s and every other weird occurrence only took place after he disappeared game 2.

I talked to him as soon as I was aware of the issues but, since they were all right at the end of the games, he'd already beaten the AI by the time I could be certain of losing him and, while I did leave game one, it was entirely on his instruction. It was only after leaving that he decided he wanted something other than a redo for that particular game, which is perhaps why I managed to persuade him.

I did have a game 2 screenshot but replaced it with the game 3 one since I thought a game 2 agreement had been reached. If you want the game 3 one, I'd be happy to PM it to you, though I don't believe it proves anything since it was taken just as his AI turn ended, a time when he most likely would have had no timer for a split second anyway.

 

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