Oracle : Jezebel

[Zso_Zso]

Her water-nymph (nymph-queen) has 7HP, elite Otyugh starts with 5, so you need 3 turns of SoP-growth to be able to eat it. You have the quanta for SoP earliest 3rd turn, so even if you played Otyugh in first 3 turns and she did not use siphon-life on it (she did in some of my tries), still the earliest opportunity to eat is 3+3=6th turn, that's way too late, she will almost certainly draw a steal and steal your SoP by then, which means her nymphs will grow bigger, so you cannot eat them even if you play another SoP.

[furballdn]

Used this fully unupped to see how it does:

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Needed to immolate a pet, but I got the win down. I suppose this can be a relatively cheap completely unupped counter with common cards if one gets a bit lucky or burns a pet.

[dawn to dusk]

i beat jezebel with this deck:

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eat any nymphs and let your pends get stolen. when stolen, jezebel will use nymph tears on them giving your scarabs easy food.

[ddevans96]

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Slightly modded Zso's deck, mostly unupped. No EM (didn't draw another PA after I got her QTs), but still worked like a charm. Also won a Tears :3

[farscape]

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^ this version (even less upgrades) worked too.

[Moraku]

A mod of mypetmachine's version of my deck.  A lot of life quantum makes Jade Shield a pretty useful substitute, freeing up a PA for more important things.

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[Daenyathos]

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^ this version (even less upgrades) worked too.

Worked like a charm, even though I got only one PA through the first 21 or 22 cards that were played.

Cheers!

[majofa]

A mod of mypetmachine's version of my deck.  A lot of life quantum makes Jade Shield a pretty useful substitute, freeing up a PA for more important things.

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Modded to have 6x Granite Skins

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[trashduke]

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Slightly modded Zso's deck, mostly unupped. No EM (didn't draw another PA after I got her QTs), but still worked like a charm. Also won a Tears :3

This worked really well.  Once I PAed her QTs, she just sat there with one Nymph (didn't create more Water Nymphs) - odd.  Also save the Explosions/Deflags for her Cloaks so that you can then use PA.  I happened to have lots of upped cards that I swapped in, but it should work regardless: 

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Update: Well, added an upgraded Sanctuary and lost hard.  I PAed her Water towers, but then she just happened to use tears on a QP and it turned into a Nymph Queen...  lame.  Oh well.

Update 2: Got the perfect draw with this deck: two PAs, a ROL, and a Cremation on the first turn.  Jezzie put her QTs and Water Towers out and then I PAed them the next turn.  She didn't do any damage to me all game (she tried to Drain Life my golem, but didn't even manage to do kill him).  Stats: 2 for 3 with this deck.

[xyan]

For dawn to dusk's oracle challenge i tried this deck (spun emerald shield), but forgot the gnome rider so I pulled a chapuz. (i would have won argh)

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yes i know it needs a RT, but heck, this was made for the challenge and it only worked cuz my draws worked out. this just proves that the upped version is solid.

[Phestus]

This thread is also full of completely useless decks for beginners.  I have tried 2 versions of the unupped, shardless immolation versions, and they simply dont work.

If you dont get more EAs than their QTs, you are screwed.  Since the FG draws 3X your cards, good luck with that.

Turn 4 Jezebel had 3 nymphs out.  Even with a double immo draw and burning a pet, I was sunk very quickly.  Plus, my destroyers were drained/black numphed to death, so not only could I not protect myself at all, I couldnt get any damange in.

Im not doing any more FGs.  I spent 400 on extra LGs and EAs to build this POS the first time, and a few here and there for the updated version.  Waste of time.

[Higurashi]

First of all, you'd have to blame the poster of the specific deck, not the entire thread. This is a community, not a Wiki, and will have ideas that are flawed or experimental. Sometimes the poster is aware enough to know this, sometimes they're trying to get e-cred. Go to the Wiki if you want a shorter, more reviewed list.

More EA's than QT's? You only need one EA to enchant her entire stack of QT's. In total you only need to draw 2 the entire game: the second one for her Water towers. I've ran an unupped Immo counter against her on my alt for months, and sometimes you do lose because EA's cost 2 and she'll put up a Cloak before that. Despite this, it has a 70% winrate.

Now for some math: if we assume an upgraded card is worth 1100 (average is a bit over that) electrum and you win a card 30% of the time on average from FG's (which is undershooting it by 17%), you get 330 per win against an FG. Challenging an FG costs 30 electrum. This means a deck only needs a winrate of 9% to almost break even (99%). Do you see where this is going?

Now before we talk about RNG: if you play any decent counter a relevant amount of times, your gain will catch up. Even if your luck was the worst in the world, you'd still be close to evening out once you have enough statistical data. Here's something you can do to see how good a counter -actually- is instead of instantly raging after one match in a game that's controlled by RNG: load the deck in Trainer (elementsthegame.com/trainer), load the AI deck code for that FG and test away.

After a few more weeks/months on your real account, you'll also find most counters to produce a very nice amount of electrum per deck. Some of them are at 90% winrate. If a deck had that against all FG's, its FGei (basically a measurement of electrum/h for FG's) would be through the roof and it'd be the most profitable deck ever. You have the luxury of employing this every time you spin a specific FG.