Oracle : Jezebel

[archertoon2]

I lost with this deck to Jezebel twice, I don't know how to handle with the steal and I have not got even a single nova to use.(all in my hand was 3 voodoo and 5 PU)
The second time, it's almost the same that my pillar got stolen, but I got 2 voodoo, 4 PU and 2 gravity pull in my hand instead.

Is this deck bad, or just that I have a very bad draw for 2 times in a row?

Ok, I'm just having very bad luck, I've tried this deck in trainer and I won 2 Nymph Tear.

[trashduke]

I have to say, I just got stomped using this deck too (late voodoo doll, and never saw a gravity pull).  I think the PA approach might be more reliable.

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[procproc]

Kev, I don't understand how that list works for you. I'm 0-9 with it in the trainer. PAing her towers doesn't work because she invariably cloaks before you have the earth quanta to cast PA (since you have to pass the turn to get it, and she always seems to be able to cloak on turn 1.) Once she starts producing nymphs, there are a number of them that basically spell doom for you: you mentioned entropy, but gravity nymphs are bad news, and fire nymphs let her army get in under your shield.

[kev]

Kev, I don't understand how that list works for you. I'm 0-9 with it in the trainer. PAing her towers doesn't work because she invariably cloaks before you have the earth quanta to cast PA (since you have to pass the turn to get it, and she always seems to be able to cloak on turn 1.) Once she starts producing nymphs, there are a number of them that basically spell doom for you: you mentioned entropy, but gravity nymphs are bad news, and fire nymphs let her army get in under your shield.

Well I just went 2-3 in trainer, bringing my total to 7-3 with 3 EMs.  Two losses were by deckout where I established a defense but my damage got out too late.  The deck might work better with 6 PAs and maybe another Gravy tower for 33 cards total.

She really shouldn't Cloak on turn two all that often.  I think AI might even prioritize stealing my Gravy tower over Cloaking.  Even if she does Cloak on turn two, you'll have a crack at PAing before her if you won the toss.  0-9 is either tremendously unlucky or I didn't do a good enough job explaining the strategy.  I usually PA her QTs first, then my Gravy towers, then my shield.

It's not a perfect deck but it's a fair option.  Jezzy be hard.

[Daenyathos]

Just EM'd Jezebel with this unupped modified immo golem...

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I modified this deck a bit, got lucky and EMed Jez with htis:

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The Eternity never came in to use, and I'm pretty certain it's not even required. I won the coin toss, had two Protect Artifacts and a Nova in hand at the start, and Jezebel couldn't play that damnable cloak before I PA'd both her tower piles.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that unless you draw a good hand and win the coin toss, this style of deck can't win consistently, as Jez aleways plays a cloak on her second turn, and by the time the cloak chain breaks, your PAs will be useless. Sure, the explosion might help, but once again, you need to draw that perfect hand (2 PAs, 1 Explosion, 2 Novas or 2 photons & 2 cremations)...

A mono-aether deck would do much better, I reckon, iIF you have a few Shards of Wisdom. I only have one...

[ColorlessGreen]

Jez aleways plays a cloak on her second turn,

Why do people keep saying this? Is this a thing? I'd never even heard this until recently.

At any rate, it just plain isn't true (she has six cloaks out of 68 cards), and even if it were, just add another deflag or two. PA'ing the QT stack is vital, but PA'ing the water tower stack is just a bonus. One deflag and one PA on the same turn takes care of the QTs even with a cloak on the field.

[Zso_Zso]

Here is another variant on the crema-golem idea, with a bit more healing to get you more EMs:

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• Explosions should help to clear cloak if it goes up before you can protect her towers
• Only play sanctuary and dagger when you can immediately protect them
• Play Unstopable on your golem AFTER it survived a turn or two and has grown (otherwise it might be wasted to siphon)

[oblivion1212]

Spoiler for Hidden:

Here is another variant on the crema-golem idea, with a bit more healing to get you more EMs:

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• Explosions should help to clear cloak if it goes up before you can protect her towers
• Only play sanctuary and dagger when you can immediately protect them
• Play Unstopable on your golem AFTER it survived a turn or two and has grown (otherwise it might be wasted to siphon)

thanks! worked wonderfully, and got a quantum tower and a steal...
funny RNG giving me a tower 

[skyironsword]

*draws not a single gravity pull*

[kaempfer13]

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Can someone try this deck? Its pretty self-explanatory: Otyughs enhanced by Shard of patience eat everything, while dry spells remove cloak and give quanta for nymphs tears. Nymphs give 36 healing per turn for just 3 quanta. You will end up with a pseudo OTK.
Might have severe starting issues, especially if SoP is stolen the turn its played (you only play it if u have creatures out but there are Nymphs with 5+ hp.
Should work best fully upped (except for dry spells, dessication is too expensive quantawise).

[Zso_Zso]

I tried an upped and slightly tweaked version with some pends to get more water quanta -- needed for the NT.
The deck is pretty good against some opponents (e.g. I EMd Obliterator with it), but the problem with Jezebel is, that when she steals your SoP, then her nymphs start growing so you never get a chance to eat them. You need to have a fat Otyugh out before she plays the first nymph AND you need a dry-spell + quanta to be able to eat it right away. That's very hard to achieve even with the faster upped deck.
IF you get a faster start then her, then sure its smooth sailing once you have fat eaters on the table that eat any nymph she pulls.
Trouble is: most of the time you will not be fast enough for that, she will steal your SoP before you have a big enough Otyugh ready to eat, then she has the upper hand with her nymphs growing fat.

[kaempfer13]

I tried an upped and slightly tweaked version with some pends to get more water quanta -- needed for the NT.
The deck is pretty good against some opponents (e.g. I EMd Obliterator with it), but the problem with Jezebel is, that when she steals your SoP, then her nymphs start growing so you never get a chance to eat them. You need to have a fat Otyugh out before she plays the first nymph AND you need a dry-spell + quanta to be able to eat it right away. That's very hard to achieve even with the faster upped deck.
IF you get a faster start then her, then sure its smooth sailing once you have fat eaters on the table that eat any nymph she pulls.
Trouble is: most of the time you will not be fast enough for that, she will steal your SoP before you have a big enough Otyugh ready to eat, then she has the upper hand with her nymphs growing fat.

I am quite surprised by your results. Never would i have expected this deck to work against Obliterator with his heavy hitters. The upped version requires no more then 3 turns (just 2 turns for most of them) to have SoP out to be able to eat every Nymph. Since steal will be used on pillars instantly, this means that Jezebel is required to draw one steal in 6 cards which -I think- is not that probable and then you might have another one while Jezebel destroys his in the next turn (or do I underestimate the AI here?). Maybe it works if you use Gravy pillars only and replace 1Nt with another Dry spell?