Oracle : Jezebel

[Moraku]

Protect Artifact Jezebel's Quantum Towers and don't let your pendulums get stolen.

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So this has failed twice for me now, both times for the same reason. SoG's+Etern doesn't heal and stop enough damage to survive 3-4 Nymph Queens and a Vamp Dagger+Drains (though Drains aren't even needed). First time I drew Diamond Shield but didn't have enough  . Second time I didn't draw it. SS' only prolonged the suffering by one turn since you don't have time to build up enough  . Lots of useless though.

Basically it seems I need too many PA's/EA's too quickly because the defence of this deck is low. I can't draw all the ones I need in time to stop her offence. Cloak is a problem.

Wait... 3-4 Nymph Queens? Could it be that you were actually rewinding them? The AI never makes more than one.

[Higurashi]

How many the AI makes depends on how many towers it gets and subsequently how much quanta it has. 3 is normal in a slow game.

Yes, I was rewinding them to slow her quanta gain and thus not get overrun as fast by more created Nymphs.

[Moraku]

How many the AI makes depends on how many towers it gets and subsequently how much quanta it has. 3 is normal in a slow game.

Yes, I was rewinding them to slow her quanta gain and thus not get overrun as fast by more created Nymphs.

No, you should not rewind any of her Nymph Queens. I played this deck many times over. Jezebel NEVER creates a second Nymph Queen as long as she already has one out on the field. Trust me on this. Once you rewind her Nymph Queen, she'll start making a new one to replace the old one. She'll then play the rewinded Nymph Queen normally. So long as you don't rewind the Nymph Queen, you'll have more than enough healing to sustain the 6 damage from the single Nymph Queen and the 6 damage from Vampire Dagger.

The only way you should lose with this deck is if you don't manage to PA her QTs early.

[Higurashi]

Goes beyond trust for you. The AI even has some randomness programmed into it. She already had two by the time I had to start slowing her down. That or a death with no hope of a shield :p

[sorfimmer]

Now that Earth Nymphs deal 5 damage each, the 500 HP deck not a free win anymore.
Instosis and Shakar's Revenge are both unreliable.
So I based my new deck on trying to prevent any nymphs in the first place.

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Warning: This is a slow outdecker and highly dependent on your initial draw.

1. Try not to play any Stone Tower on your first turn unless you have 2 or more PAs. Otherwise, try to survive with only Novas on your first turn.
2. Try not to play *ANYTHING* unless you can PA it.
3. PA her QTs first. If you can't do this before Cloak appears, your chances of winning drop greatly.
4. Warning: Do *NOT* PA her Water Towers. She will only make one Water Nymph and you need ALL of your PAs to win with this deck.
5. PA your Stone Towers next to prevent her from dealing additional damage per turn.
6. PA your Shards next. However, you can afford to play Shards without PA if you absolutely need to. Preferably, you want to keep at least 3 Shards PA'd to keep yourself alive.
7. PA your Shield if you need to.
8. PA your Time Towers and Eternity in whichever order deemed appropriate. Obviously, don't wait until your last turn to play your Eternity. (You can add a Rewind to the deck if you're afraid of a last-draw Eternity.)

I'd say this is the best and cheapest version of the deck. I EMed even without the deck completely upped (the stone towers and half the protect artifacts were unnupped).

[Moraku]

Goes beyond trust for you. The AI even has some randomness programmed into it. She already had two by the time I had to start slowing her down. That or a death with no hope of a shield :p

That would be strange because if there were randomness in this, you'd think she would have made a second Nymph Queen during my slow 50-turn stalls... But I'll take your word for it.  However, I have already tested Rewinding Nymph Queen against Jezebel. It, in no way, would help you. Jezebel would 100% create a new Nymph Queen guaranteed. It can only work against you. Also, rewinding is a poor means of decking out Jezebel anyway (it's slow enough as it is)...

Also, if it's REALLY causing you personal grief. you can just opt to PA her water towers instead and simply don't drop any stone towers (I suppose you could then replace all stone towers with anything else like Heal or Shards of Divinity to help you tank more damage).

[Higurashi]

Again, depends on how the game is going. She easily rushed me with two Nymphs, and it was obviously the best choice for her as my HP was going down at a certain pace (triggers different behaviours). Same thing goes for rewinding; as I already said it was that or die even faster with no hope of a shield. Having hope for a shield and a win was obviously the better choice. You don't seem to read very carefully.

Dunno where you get personal grief from. If I had the option to PA all her towers I... would. That should be very obvious when the final point of my post was that I can't draw enough PA's fast enough. Need 'em for SoG's and QT's at the very least, and pretty fast. Dunno why you'd wanna skip Stone Towers. I'd just die even quicker and not afford more PA's. Something like Snovas would let her play early Cloaks too.

I'm prolly gonna go experimental next time with Novas, PA's, PC, Etern and a TON of drawing power. Precogs and SoBe's will be nice.

[bjessee]

While I have never seen the AI behavior that Higs mentions, I definitely have had problems with the PA deck keeping up with the damage from Jezebel against just one Nymph and a Dagger.

It is definitely not a 500 HP EM deck as you always seem to need to spend at least half of the SSes to stay alive, but I did manage to get a 300+ EM on her this morning.  The deck did stabilize, but not on its own.  A fortuitous Iridium Warden pet gets all the credit for keeping me alive and preventing enough damage to get me back to full HP on the next to last turn.  Had she shown a little patience and waited to do more than 2 damage with the one Drain Life she spent on him, Jezebel would have rolled over me.

Higs mentioned card draw for her idea, so I played around with Shakar's and SoBs.  I went a little further than eaglgenes101 and went with a full 6.  I have no idea if it is more reliable, but it certainly is a lot of fun.

[Anthraxx]

Just lost with the PA / Eternity deck after 1st turn PA on her QTs... For a long time I couldn't figure out how the hell does she produce so many auburn nymphs... Was almost ready to report a bug, and then it hit me - I left my Stone Towers unprotected and got killed 2 turns before her deck-out. Go me!

[kimham8a]

Just lost with the PA / Eternity deck after 1st turn PA on her QTs... For a long time I couldn't figure out how the hell does she produce so many auburn nymphs... Was almost ready to report a bug, and then it hit me - I left my Stone Towers unprotected and got killed 2 turns before her deck-out. Go me!

I don't understand. Jezebel tearing your towers will give YOU a nymph, not her...

[ddevans96]

Towers got stolen, probably.

[Junkers]

Just EM'd Jezebel with this unupped modified immo golem...

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