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o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451153#msg451153
« on: January 21, 2012, 06:26:44 pm »
Never did one of these intro thingers...I suppose now works. :))

The name's Freefall...RandomBandit in-game.

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I stumbled on the game on kongregate I believe.  The aesthetic drew me in, the large variety kept me around, and the grind-of-doom will keep me from playing obsessively [good? bad? not sure...].

A few things that stood out to me.
-Simple things like when you pair water with something, the deck takes on the 'feel' of the non-water element. [intentional or not, that is just brilliant].  I know it is not a big deal, and it is really just one color, but it just struck me.
-Unlisted effects.  Skeletons reverse-timed, and Adrenaline on a Malignant Cell.  I understand the last one to be a glitch, but it is still a FANTASTIC mechanic.  To be honest, I would like to see more of this.  It is a bit counter-intuitive to CCG design, but it is simply too unique to not expand on, even a little.
-The MASSIVE void between long-term players and new ones. [Grind FOREVER, maybe get into pvp if you can] Would be less of an issue with better matching.
-To not end on a negative...The involved community, and the Dev(s?) involvement with said community. Just seeing players names on the card art is very neat.

I place this game firmly in the 'shows MASSIVE promise and I truly hope it is further developed to it's full potential' category.  As it stands right now, I have more fun reading through the forums and looking at the cards in the trainer than grinding through L3s in the actual game.  ;)

I think that should do it for now.  I will be around \o
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451155#msg451155
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 06:35:25 pm »
Welcome to the community Freefall. Hope to see you a little more in CHAT (http://elementscommunity.org/chat/).

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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451161#msg451161
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 06:55:17 pm »
Hello Freefall357. Welcome to the forum.

Seems like you have a love/hate relationship with the whole game itself, since you're having more fun here at the forum, hehe!

This part of grinding AI3 is quite loooong, I agree, but it pays off when you struggle against False-Gods!

Have a nice gaming experience! :)
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451200#msg451200
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 07:49:44 pm »
Hello Freefall357. Welcome to the forum.

Seems like you have a love/hate relationship with the whole game itself, since you're having more fun here at the forum, hehe!

This part of grinding AI3 is quite loooong, I agree, but it pays off when you struggle against False-Gods!

Have a nice gaming experience! :)
I would not call it a love/HATE relationship with the game.  I am not a fan of grinding is all.  It is a relatively small concern personally, though I feel, from a game design standpoint, it is a negative.
As it stands, I run the game on an unused monitor as I work [programmer, work from home] grinding L3s.  When the oracle is available, I blow all of my money on an unupped anti-FG deck and give it a shot [no cards from them yet].  It builds my card stock and, as has been the case once already, I have the right deck for the right FG as they come up in the Oracle.  It seems a solid plan from my newbie perspective.

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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451634#msg451634
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 10:02:09 pm »
Hello Freefall357. Welcome to the forum.

Seems like you have a love/hate relationship with the whole game itself, since you're having more fun here at the forum, hehe!

This part of grinding AI3 is quite loooong, I agree, but it pays off when you struggle against False-Gods!

Have a nice gaming experience! :)
I would not call it a love/HATE relationship with the game.  I am not a fan of grinding is all.  It is a relatively small concern personally, though I feel, from a game design standpoint, it is a negative.
As it stands, I run the game on an unused monitor as I work [programmer, work from home] grinding L3s.  When the oracle is available, I blow all of my money on an unupped anti-FG deck and give it a shot [no cards from them yet].  It builds my card stock and, as has been the case once already, I have the right deck for the right FG as they come up in the Oracle.  It seems a solid plan from my newbie perspective.
Oh, I understand your point of view. It's really annoying this 'grinding' thing. Anything that is repeated seeming endlessly becomes boring. When we start fighting AI3 and see no end to that stage of game is natural to do hard effort on defeating FGs, even without much of a chance...

Reading all over the forum I found that is more rewarding to avoid buying and selling cards at this point of game. When you find a deck strong enough to repeatedly win AI3 this stage don't last too long. I am now grinding Half-Bloods, another level of fun. I 'skipped' AI3 using a fast life deck found somewhere in forum (I could not find it again... sorry!). Here it is:

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Worked very fine to me...
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451654#msg451654
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 11:00:23 pm »
Indeed, grinding the 3s is pretty harsh.  I tend to play in the background while I work...so it helps.  Long grinds don't fit well in my personal philosophy of game-design, but I understand it being there.

Are you saying that the deck you presented is the one you use to grind L4s?
I am using mono-death on L3s...not the most entertaining, but quick and effective.

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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451714#msg451714
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 01:06:35 am »
Are you saying that the deck you presented is the one you use to grind L4s?
I am using mono-death on L3s...not the most entertaining, but quick and effective.
No, I use this deck against L3. It wins on average at 6-8 turns, something like 85% of the times I play.
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451732#msg451732
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 01:49:45 am »
Are you saying that the deck you presented is the one you use to grind L4s?
I am using mono-death on L3s...not the most entertaining, but quick and effective.
No, I use this deck against L3. It wins on average at 6-8 turns, something like 85% of the times I play.
ah, ok.
my mono-death is averaging under 50sec/game and seldom loses as well.
I have been fiddling around looking for a L4 deck...looks like I can get a mono-death there without have to get too many new cards...might work my way towards it.

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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451733#msg451733
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 01:51:28 am »
AI4 isn't that good to farm except for the fun of it, since it is composed of a half randomized decks and upgraded + unupgraded cards, thus lowering the chances of you winning a card. Better off to skip them and go for FG's, in my opnion..

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 03:16:54 am »
Better off to skip them and go for FG's, in my opnion..
I can't deny that lots of players said it all over the forum...
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451761#msg451761
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 03:45:57 am »
Farming FGs....being new makes this a bit of an undertaking.  I have done some searching around and it seems that unupped decks don't fare all that well against FGs...as well they shouldn't.  I was shooting for L4s because they seem farmable enough while also having a high-than-zero chance of providing upped cards, as L3s have.
I may well stick with my original plan of farming the oracle, while sustaining off L3s until I can toss a moderate franken-upped deck together. ;D
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Re: o/ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35858.msg451923#msg451923
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 05:23:23 pm »
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