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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230156#msg1230156
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2016, 04:42:29 am »
Since nobody has mentioned it yet that I saw, I'll just say that the term 't50' refers to the predecessor of the arena and no longer exists, having been replaced by the arena several years ago.  It was a game mode where you would be randomly set against one of the currently loaded decks of the 50 players with the highest overall score in Elements at the time.  It was generally too easy because many of the top 50 players would intentionally leave up 'farm' decks when not actually playing the game, i.e. decks full of rares for people to get in the spins but no way for the AI to actually win a game.  It was replaced by the arena, which is a much better designed system overall.

For saving decks, if you use the import/export function, you can copy/paste the code in there (in the previous post, the thing that stats with 5c6 and ends with 8pn.  Each 3 digit thing corresponds to one card in the deck.  There is no in-game way to save decks, beyond that the one you have currently loaded will still be loaded when you play again.  I keep a notepad file on my desktop with decks and I also have a bunch on threads in the forum that I have shared for other people's reference as well.

As for decks to play against ai3, I haven't been there for a very long time, but when I started Elements (having a minor heart attack, as I think it was about 5 years ago now...) I started with the life deck, and I quickly built a deck with 6 frog 6 cockatrice 6 adrenaline 1 druid staff and 11 pillars, and started upgrading that as able.  I don't know how effective that deck still is, but it was dirt cheap to make, at least in the unupgraded version.  (the druid staff is a rare; I took it when I finished my weapon quest.  If you don't have one, don't worry about it; a short sword will take its place fine.  You could also just use another pillar or experiment with something else like a dragon or mitosis)  I would guess, however, that most of the ai3 decks would lose to something like 6 dimensional shield 4 psion 4 fractal + quanta or 6 dimensional shield 6 phase dragon 3-5 more aether cards + quanta.

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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230159#msg1230159
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2016, 06:39:05 am »
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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230182#msg1230182
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2016, 02:19:26 pm »
thank you ..isnowonline and ProBacon!!!!
Speaking of the 'arena' and AI 4, how come the opponent starts out with 150 life pts? Wow, how to beat that becomes the question.
And yeah, I've been finding that no matter what deck you build and make stronger, there are always other deck strategies that can beat it.
So I guess right off the bat I'm thinking that a good overall deck would be one that had only a couple high hitters (as those can be blocked) and quite a few lower point monsters, but mostly ones that either replicate themselves, or spells that do that for you. For me, the best so far seems to be x6 'poison', as those I see can not be blocked, and monsters that can have their attack increased each turn. I'll cheep churning away at it.

Thanks about t50, explains that.
But I'm going to start off now with that 6 frog, cockatrice 6 adrenaline deck you mention.
again, thanks for the info guys.. chucking along here.

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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230208#msg1230208
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2016, 06:38:26 pm »
ai4 starts with 150hp simply because it's a higher difficulty.  False gods have 200... :)  (actually, ai4 used to have 200 as well, but it was changed at some point)  Arena decks can have anywhere from 1 to 200hp, depending on level, age, and design.  You can expect roughly 120, 140, 160, 180 hp at bronze/silver/gold/platinum, but the variation is quite high, depending on the characteristics I just mentioned.  For instance, based on my account level and how I build them, all my arena decks I post have 190hp to start, but lose hp with age.  (the one I have at this moment has 186hp)

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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230210#msg1230210
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2016, 07:00:52 pm »
So my opponent in Arena can have all of that extra HP just because they have been playing longer? or?... So being new, I only start out Arena battles with 100hp, so how can I ever beat them then? Just wondering, not complaining. I'll just stay out of Arena because I don't have a chance to win it.

Another question pops up now, most times I play the A2, I don't get the stated award gold pts, same with A3, instead I get from 1 to 7, even though it states the award is 10gp, I only get 7? or 4? What is the logic that's affecting the difference. Anyone know that one?

So, anyway, I continually start over (DELETE) and begin with different decks to get a feel for the different ones. Haven't found one that wins more than not yet. In fact it's looking like what I have to do is to just stick with one and add to it with the extra 500g I get when I hit the 150 pt mark. Last time I met that mark I made a completely different deck and lost most of the 500g to deleting previous cards and replacing with the new element deck. Something to be learned here, grins.. scratching head.

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Re: Hello, what is AI3/t50 grinder and fully upped FG Grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61731.msg1230305#msg1230305
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2016, 02:22:43 am »
thanks everyone who's helped this far.... I did it!!! I found a 'WIN' deck with a winning combo for most matches 1, 2, 3 so far. (almost made it, just this much off in level 4, snaps finger, darn'd).

So I get it now.

 

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