Hello Elements!

[TribalTrouble]

My alt uses a classic grabbow to farm Bronze and Ai3 efficiently.

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While you can farm silver and gold partially or even fully unupped it isn't the best idea as it depends on luck more than anything.

This is better than your deck for a few reasons. First of all, having more than 2 different weapons alone is a bad idea in a grinder. Secondly, while your deck is pretty cool it has relatively high cost creatures for a mostly unupped rainbow. The above deck has gotten 5-7ttw in its current form quite often. Yours is exceptionally heavy on Air, Water, and Time when it doesn't draw its SN's. Your problem isn't that Arena sets you up to lose, it is that your deck sets you up to lose versus Arena due to its lack of speed.

Here's the secret: Rares DON'T WIN THE GAME! You seem to be of the mindset that because shards are rares and you keep losing to them, you need more rares in your deck to beat them. This is a flawed mindset. Try the deck above, ups not required, versus Bronze and see how much better you do.

If you are doing your deck for fun that is fine but you shouldn't complain if fun interferes with efficiency.

You may also want to take a look at http://elementscommunity.org/forum/farming-studies-and-statistics/decks-used-against-arena-with-stats-1-32/

[timetock]

Thank you TT for explaining it better than I can ever.

[Phestus]

Thanks to both of you for the help. 

Timetock, I have looked at the 1.4 update, and even played a couple of hours of the beta fights.  It is unclear to me how the mid-stages of the game are going to be done, but the noob areas look fine.  I know there will be a wider range of opponents to eliminate the huge jump from Ai3 to HBs, but I dont know if it will be more rewarding than simply farming Ai3s now. 

Tribal, I have a couple of versions of 30-card rainbows I can import and have played (hence my choice of cards I have upgraded, 2 hourglasses and 2 SNs), but was actually using Immobow most of the time last night.  I switch decks daily after the FG/oracle clear-out, which won me an upped Feral Bond this morning, and tend to try out nearly anything I have cards for.   I had posted that deck earlier in the thread as the deck I had made for my first foray into bronze, and it did well, but as you said the CC is too high and it is very vulnerable to a little permanent control.  I dont have enough threats OR defense in it, which is a really bad combo for a control deck.  That being said, when I do establish control (usually through pulverizer and lobotomizer being out at the same time) and get a Druid out, it is a ton of fun to play.

I am trying to save for another upped card for the limitless speed OTK deck, but the going is very, very slow.  This morning I made a decision to build my own Ferox killer instead of buying the cards for one of the standard forum versions, just to save a bit.  It worked well, thanks to the forum and the great information it provided.  I will try and do this when I can to save a little more, rather than buying my way to a full card set at the expense of my OTK upgrades.

Here is what I ran against Ferox, would be interested to see how you guys would tweak it so I can get a little better handle on how to do this everyday to save a bit more using the 3 fights a day method:

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I ended the game with 40 life (near where I was at when i played my first shield.  By the time my shields ran out, I had killed everything but a couple of Rays with the Otyughs, and had a Steam Golem up to 40ish power.  Never needed the Eternity, but it was close, as I had hourglasses a few times and didnt get the pulverizer going until pretty late.  He still had a Feral Bond at the end of the game.  I might add a steal or two in place of the pulverizer next time, as the Otyughs were just too nice to give up.

Thanks in advance