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Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237355#msg1237355
« on: July 10, 2016, 10:36:03 pm »
Not sure if anyone even reads these, so I'll make this compact.

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Favorite Elements:  :entropy :water
Other games: Overwatch, Competitive Pokemon [G/S/C OU]
How I found EtG: Long time ago. I forget exactly when, but it was easily a few years back. Stumbled across this game randomly (I forget what path made me stumble, though). Played it for a few weeks, then fell off. Skip to now. Overwatch has come out, and I need Burnout prevention. The second generation Pokemon scene is relatively dead in terms of quality matches, with no real ladder, instead requiring blatant scheduling. Then I remember about this game, that I used to play way back when, and decided to come back to it. And here I am now.

Having a M:tG background, EtG was easy for me to pick up, with similar mechanics and the somewhat low card pool, comparatively. I'm mostly looking to learn the individual strengths and weaknesses of each of the twelve elements, so I can better understand what I'm up against, where to go to if I need something, and to help the overall quality of my deckbuilding.

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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237357#msg1237357
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2016, 10:51:55 pm »
Other games:Competitive Pokemon[G/S/C OU]

there aren't a lot of GSCer in the world anymore, is always nice find someone that plays the old pokemon tiers

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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237358#msg1237358
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2016, 10:53:37 pm »
Welcome to the forum! You have great taste in elements: :water :water :water :water :water
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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237359#msg1237359
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2016, 10:53:54 pm »
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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237360#msg1237360
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2016, 11:06:50 pm »
You'll fit in nicely, being someone who plays both competitive Pokemon and MtG. We have a lot of players from each of those.

I could give you a quick rundown on the twelve Elements and their strengths/power cards if you'd like.
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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237361#msg1237361
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2016, 11:13:09 pm »
You'll fit in nicely, being someone who plays both competitive Pokemon and MtG. We have a lot of players from each of those.

I could give you a quick rundown on the twelve Elements and their strengths/power cards if you'd like.

I would have never expected Pokemon players here, is a nice surprise. Though Overwatch + this means I won't have time to really catch up much on SM, which is a shame.

I would greatly appreciate that, I think that's going to be the only real thing I have to learn about the actual game itself, rest after that would just be trying to get experience.

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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237375#msg1237375
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 01:02:47 am »
The cards discussed can be viewed here.

:aether - Power cards are Dimensional Shield and Fractal. A deck with 6 Dimensional Shields can completely shut down a very sizable portion of the metagame, moreso than any other card. Fractal, which is often but not always paired with Dimensional Shield, provides immense late-game damage when paired with a good creature, typically Psion, Phase Recluse, or a low-cost attacker from another Element. Aether is weak to fast decks with permanent control (Deflagration, Steal, Pulverizer) or methods of bypassing shields (Shard of Freedom, Titan+Flying Weapon). Aether is strong against pretty much everything else, which is why it's arguably the game's strongest Element.

:air - An Element with a collection of solid cards, but no card that really sticks out the most. Air can run fast, pure damage decks with Shard of Freedom, although these typically only perform well with at least few upgrades for Damselfly and Elite Wyrm in particular. Air also has decent defensive cards, primarily Wings, Fog Shield, and Shockwave. Lastly, Flying Weapon works in a couple decks, which you'll see later. And if you somehow manage to come across 6 Blue Nymphs, that can be strong. Overall, Air is pretty solid on all fronts but lacks sheer power.

:darkness - Interesting Element because it doesn't have a very strong rush or stall, but it's still very strong overall. Key cards are Vampire Dagger, Devourer, Steal, and Nightmare. Vampire Dagger is arguably the strongest upgraded weapon because of it's sheer damage+healing, but it's weaker unupgraded. Devourer is a great denial card and is sometimes paired with Fractal for a total shutdown. Steal is probably the best permanent control card in the game, and Nightmare is useful in most situations and helps against Fractal decks.

:death - Key card here is Bone Wall, which is probably the second best shield in the game after Dimensional Shield, but it depends on the matchup. Bone Wall's use is blocking damage against decks with permanent control, or being paired with creature control such as Lightning. Note that Arsenic is useful for building up damage, and it's very strong in defensive decks with Bone Wall. Death is good against decks with low-health creatures through use of Bone Wall + Lightning/Shockwave/Fire Bolt. Death also has a pretty solid rush because it has efficient creatures.

:earth - Probably a bottom-half Element, but it still has its uses. Basilisk Blood is the most reliable creature control card because it stops almost anything for 6 turns. Earthquake is useful for quanta denial but overrated in my opinion. Pulverizer has its uses against stalls or Dimensional Shield decks. Iridium Warden combos with Shard of Patience.

:entropy - Power card is Discord, which is arguably the best unupgraded weapon. Discord + 6 Purple Dragons can tear through slower decks, unless they have a good Shield. Nova is also good in rainbow decks - you'll encounter those soon enough. Ironically rainbows are probably the best answer to Discord.

:fire - Now this is an Element! Power cards are Phoenix, Fire Bolt, Fahrenheit, Deflagration, Immolation, Lava Golem. Yes, these are a lot of power cards! Phoenix is a great attacker, efficient and hard to kill. Fire Bolt is a great control card that works against creatures or the opponent directly. Fahrenheit is a very strong weapon in stalls. Deflagration is useful as one of the few permanent control cards. Immolation and Lava Golem typically go hand-in-hand, along with some sort of fodder such as Photon, to produce extremely fast rushes. Fire can also be combined with healing cards (Sanctuary, Shard of Gratitude) to make very good stalls. You'll notice that Fire Bolt and Fahrenheit are great in stall decks because they accumulate high amounts of quanta.

:gravity - One of the weaker Elements, especially in a low-upgrades environment, but it does have one good deck. Its best deck is Titan + Flying Weapon, which completely tears through stall decks, especially with Catapult added in.

:life - There's a running joke that there are only 11 Elements, because Life is so weak. Let's move on.

:light - Good stall Element because of Sanctuary and Miracle. That's about it, though. Light typically has to be combined with another Element, such as Fire, which provides creature control.

:time - Not much to see here. Sundial is useful in stalls. Reverse Time is good against Nova and Immolation decks. Somehow Spike managed to get 3rd in War with this Element, but that was more due to Spike than the Time Element itself.

:water - Power cards are Shard of Patience and Nymph's Tears, or even better if you have Nymph Queens. Both of these cards can build up massive amounts of damage. Water's defenses are a little shaky though, and it can't rush too well either.

Overall, I'd place Aether/Fire/Darkness at the top, followed by Entropy/Air/Death, and then the rest.
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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237377#msg1237377
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 01:11:04 am »
:water - Power cards are Shard of Patience and Nymph's Tears, or even better if you have Nymph Queens. Both of these cards can build up massive amounts of damage. Water's defenses are a little shaky though, and it can't rush too well either.

Permafrost is one of the best shields in the game, and with the right support, usually from Shard of Patience, Arctic Squid can shutdown most creature based strategies. If unanswered, Trident can be a powerful denial card also.
Water is better described as an excellent support element. You'd rarely make monos with it in unrestricted environments, but it can usually form a decent deck with other elements in most formats.
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Re: Obligatory introduction post https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62419.msg1237413#msg1237413
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 03:31:11 pm »
Welcome to the forum! I can confirm that I read all the introductions. ^^

Never been dedicated competitive in Pokémon, but am decently familiar with the series.

Another way you might become more familiar with element interactions is through the 'Deck Idea of the Month' section in our forum's monthly newsletter which features a deck and a review of how it works (or doesn't). You'll also be named in next month's newsletter, and if fortune and skill work out you might be featured as a tournament winner sometime too.

...with that slightly shameless plug out of the way, I'd like to wish you the best. Hope you have fun!
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