What should we do next?

[OldTrees]

How many people would be interested is sorting all the elemental weapon ideas in the Forge+ and adding new ideas for the elements that are low on weapon ideas?

[majofa]

There are too many weapons already

[The_Mormegil]

Well, it could be a good project, but I agree it's not what Elements needs right now.

[moomoose]

i agree, its not what elements needs, it may be fun to work together to come up with new ideas, but not so much to just dig around for other people's established ideas.

maybe we could come up with a list of elemental combinations which make sense thematically but are lacking in game, and/or which elements are lacking in spell/permanent selection, or any other niches which could be filled, and then see what cards we can come up with for them.

[OldTrees]

What about a project for Armory cards evaluation?

[moomoose]

i dont really know what that could accomplish, theyre already there, the highest they can go without divine intervention (read: zanz), and the threads are already open for us to make comments about them if we wish.

[ZephyrPhantom]

The whole Pseudo-Element thing could use a bit of a push. I think we could start a project where we made a group of cards based on those.

[OldTrees]

The whole Pseudo-Element thing could use a bit of a push. I think we could start a project where we made a group of cards based on those.

This would be an interesting project IMHO. It would need a little more structure when implemented.

[The_Mormegil]

This is less a question, and more advice from a player that specializes in a similar element.

Both Aether and Gravity have one thing in common:

The lack of positive Attack-Quanta creatures.

With Graviton Mercenary being -1,
Sapphire Charger being -1,
Armagio being -4,
and Colossal Dragon being -3...

Gravity has a tough time doing damage on it's own.

Aether gets around this by using it's powerful arsenal of spells (Lightning, Parallel Universe, Fractal) to do damage using other elements.

In your opinion, is it possible to use Gravity in a similar way in order to circumvent your damage difficulties?

This inspired me to bring forth sort of an ongoing Project. Basically, Pimp My Element for teams that arrived last in War.

Now, a disclaimer: I know teams are not elements and losing War has probably not much to do with the element as it is, but rather with how the team performed. But, since War is THE PvP Event and at least SOMETHING is related to inherent elemental power (especially for the most powerful elements), I think losing War teams are a nice starting point. Everything else would work well, though.

Now, the idea sort of takes the lead from the definition of the Metagame mentioned above. We would have a thread outside of the IF forums, on CIA boards probably, where everybody may comment upon the element in question mechanically. We would also send PMs to the "guest stars" of the element and feature their comments on the opening post. For example, we might want to PM Gravity team members and especially Girlsgeneration if we started from that. The best comments on the thread would be copy-pasted here on IF boards, and the card creation would start.
Now, with expert advice on the Element's metagame and with a healthy discussion on the element's themes, we could very well come up with a "fix". That is, a card or more than one card that gives the element in question a solution to the most likely causes of its defeat.

For instance, we all know on of Gravity's major weak spots this War has been RT. We find a way to answer that problem, for starters, and any other problem that comes out of the above mentioned thread.

[moomoose]

that's essentially what i was going for with my earlier suggestion

[Anarook]

Seaparate from the other ideas, I've noticed a lack of vanilla cards being designed(ie. cards w/o effects).
Perahps we can start something as an incentive to foster such development?
I understand how effects tend to make things more interesting, but who can say a few normal cards wouldn't fit right in?

[OldTrees]

Separate from the other ideas, I've noticed a lack of vanilla cards being designed(ie. cards w/o effects).
Perhaps we can start something as an incentive to foster such development?
I understand how effects tend to make things more interesting, but who can say a few normal cards wouldn't fit right in?

I do not see a benefit in mentioning (through the forum) strictly vanilla creatures to Zanz. I am sure he at least already knows them all mechanically. What benefit do you see?

There is a type of card called a semivanilla. It is where the creature has a single ability that is not powerful enough to have warranted an increase in cost. The Airborne Dragons are an example. These have value though it can be tricky to find what semivanilla ability would be the most beneficial to the game.